The Vargas, Taylor and Cotto Theory...(Why they are shot)

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  • Shattered Jaw
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    #21
    Why would Arum have fed Cotto to the wolves?

    Cotto was on the verge of Super Stardom before Margarito.

    Infact the hype for a Cotto V Mayweather fight was similar to the one for Pac V Mayweather now (in the boxing world). Obviously Mayweather ducked the quite scary prime Cotto though. He was fighting the far better Hatton. LMFAO.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      vargas = rushed + thyroid problem. He was ruined by tito. he was never the same after that. then his thyroid started acting up.

      taylor = rushed, not that good. I mean he was fighting 154 lbers at MW then he stepped up big to fight BHOP.

      cotto = not that good. Cotto was developed very well by Top Rank.... he was given the DLH treatment. If you really look back at his career, he was vulnerable all along from 140 to 147.

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      • El Castigador
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        #23
        Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
        Why would Arum have fed Cotto to the wolves?

        Cotto was on the verge of Super Stardom before Margarito.

        Infact the hype for a Cotto V Mayweather fight was similar to the one for Pac V Mayweather now (in the boxing world). Obviously Mayweather ducked the quite scary prime Cotto though. He was fighting the far better Hatton. LMFAO.
        Jesus man this fight has nothing to do with Floyd..there are plenty of Floyd threads you can comment on...

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        • Iceta
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          #24
          I think the only guy listed out of the three that actually produced conclusive wins with results was Vargas. Quartey, Campas, and Castillejo are not great fighters, but he beat those dudes convincingly. Cotto and Taylor never beat the elite fighters they fought convincingly, and that is the difference. Vargas was also thrown to the wolves a lot earlier in his career than those other guys were. I mean stop to think about it. Cotto and Taylor were matched up with feather fisted boxers real early in their career. Taylor had Spinks, Ouma, Wright, a shot Joppy, and to a lesser extent, Raul Marquez. Cotto fought guys like Gomez, Branco, Malinaggi, and Jennings. And after Cotto lost to Pacquiao, that marked the first time that he had fought two elite fighters in a row. It's not like Cotto and Taylor fought a murderer's row their whole career. They were just never that good.

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          • Kaffa
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            #25
            Originally posted by Iceta
            I think the only guy listed out of the three that actually produced conclusive wins with results was Vargas. Quartey, Campas, and Castillejo are not great fighters, but he beat those dudes convincingly. Cotto and Taylor never beat the elite fighters they fought convincingly, and that is the difference. Vargas was also thrown to the wolves a lot earlier in his career than those other guys were. I mean stop to think about it. Cotto and Taylor were matched up with feather fisted boxers real early in their career. Taylor had Spinks, Ouma, Wright, a shot Joppy, and to a lesser extent, Raul Marquez. Cotto fought guys like Gomez, Branco, Malinaggi, and Jennings. And after Cotto lost to Pacquiao, that marked the first time that he had fought two elite fighters in a row. It's not like Cotto and Taylor fought a murderer's row their whole career. They were just never that good.
            Cotto also fought Kelson Pinto, Ricardo Torres, Carlos Quintana, Zab Judah and Shane Mosley. Don't try to downplay his resume by only mentioning three soft punchers he's fought and casually leaving out the heavier hitters he's faced.

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            • Cockfighter69
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              #26
              Originally posted by King Burner
              Thats what Im asking...were these smart fights to take....

              Did their promoters/managers manage their fighters career right??

              Arum is the worse........hes all about a dollar.

              He fed Cotto to the wolves.

              Hes doing Pac the same way by outting him in there with Floyd.

              LMAO. "He fed Cotto to the wolves". Funny how before the Margarito fight everyone on here was pumped for the fight and saying that Cotto was going to make Margarito look foolish and then knock him out or stop him with a body shot. Yet when Margarito is the one that destroys him people want to blame Arum for making the fight happen and say he was rushed into it.

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              • Roxas
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                #27
                Originally posted by mangler
                It's called daring to be great. They paid the price for it. And none of them I'd consider to have achieved gr8ness. EM is an ATG and is on this same list of young but shot fighters. It ain't an exact science. But give these guys props for havin the balls to go all out.
                difference between being brave and ****** my friend....

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                • El Castigador
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                  #28
                  BUMPEDDDDDDDDDD


                  Enuff of Pac-Floyd.............

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                  • MANGLER
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Roxas
                    difference between being brave and ****** my friend....
                    Risk is only ****** if you can't win.

                    Boat buyer stans don't understand fights ain't won on paper.

                    Some fighters ain't satisfied wit hypothetical, woulda/shoulda/coulda type ****.

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                    • El Castigador
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mangler
                      Risk is only ****** if you can't win.

                      Boat buyer stans don't understand fights ain't won on paper.

                      Some fighters ain't satisfied wit hypothetical, woulda/shoulda/coulda type ****.
                      Mangler cmon man....no Floyd talk here please..............

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