if Pac beats Mayweather and retires, is he automatically on the top 5 GOAT list?

[jrosales13]

Oh so you think Trinidad beat Delahoya ?

Mayweather outboxed Dela and Dela outboxed Trinidad.

I guess SD stands for **** decision

I thought Trinidad beat Oscar.

RD 1- Tito landed more punches, it was a swing round could of gone either way I gave it to Tito.

Rd 4- I thought Tito won... He landed the better shots

Rd 5- Was close could of gone either way. Another swing round. I gave it to Tito.

Rds9-12 was all Tito. Oscar didn't do nothing in those 4 rds.

So I had it 7rds-5(115-113) in favor of Trinidad. Is was not a **** decision. It was a close fight that could of gone either way.

[Still Pimpin]

Yes, no one could possible do what he has done so far. Just impressive, but Mayweather probably is going to win, Pacquiao is a Warrior, Warriors make Floyd look good.

I don't see Pacquiao really trying to box, that's what will make him fail.

If he box's, he got a good chance. If he goes to attack, he is going to get caught for sure.

Actually I have it exactly the opposite.

a. If it's a boxing match Floyd destroys Pac in Gatti fashion.
b. If it's an all out fight Pac gets the ko
c. If both do what they are best at I'm going to **** myself out of excitement and we will witness a better fight than we have in years.

I like both fighters and if *******s weren't such *******s I wouldn't give a **** who won. I hope Pac tries to box Floyd..lol !!! That **** would be satisfying in the short term but if option (C) is what we get than I will be greatful in the long term either way it goes.

C makes for the best fight. The sword fighter uses the sword and the stick fighter uses the stick.

[JAB5239]

Oh so you think Trinidad beat Delahoya ?

Mayweather outboxed Dela and Dela outboxed Trinidad.

I guess SD stands for **** decision

Who said ANYTHING like that you moron? I was making an example that win or lose, Oscar sustained hardly any damage. Hence, Floyd did not RUIN him, just as Trinidad didn't. And for the record.....I thought Oscar won the Tito fight.

[Still Pimpin]

I thought Trinidad beat Oscar.

RD 1- Tito landed more punches, it was a swing round could of gone either way I gave it to Tito.

Rd 4- I thought Tito won... He landed the better shots

Rd 5- Was close could of gone either way. Another swing round. I gave it to Tito.

Rds9-12 was all Tito. Oscar didn't do nothing in those 4 rds.

So I had it 7rds-5(115-113) in favor of Trinidad. Is was not a **** decision. It was a close fight that could of gone either way.

I don't know but I personally thought Oscar schooled Tito but before I continue I will stfu and rewatch the fight. Youtube wasn't what it is today so I didn't rewatch the fight so I will do that now. I thought Oscar was the winner and he played around a bit too much for the judges in the later rounds but I thought that was more of a bad decision via over confidence than a matter of fear of losing. I thought Oscar had it in the bag and he did too. Isn't that why Oscar started Goldenboy promotions in the first place ?

Normally I would write guys like you off but I've read your post and you seem knowledgable and less biased than most so out of respect for you I will watch it again because that decision bothered me for a while now. Maybe we will just agree to disagree but I'll get back to ya !!!

[Still Pimpin]

Who said ANYTHING like that you moron? I was making an example that win or lose, Oscar sustained hardly any damage. Hence, Floyd did not RUIN him, just as Trinidad didn't. And for the record.....I thought Oscar won the Tito fight.

Didi I disrespect you or are you one of those less than confident people who have to dis anyone who challenges your opinion ?

Be respectful or I'll ignore you. Were not gonna meet in the streets and fight so keep it cool. You wan' tok boxing or hype your own fight ?

BTW glad you agree on the Oscar v Tito thing isn't that why he started Golden boy in the first place ???

[JAB5239]

Didi I disrespect you or are you one of those less than confident people who have to dis anyone who challenges your opinion ?

Be respectful or I'll ignore you. Were not gonna meet in the streets and fight so keep it cool. You wan' tok boxing or hype your own fight ?

BTW glad you agree on the Oscar v Tito thing isn't that why he started Golden boy in the first place ???

Hey, if you want to put me on ignore just do it. You didn't challenge my opinion, you challenged my post by jumping the gun and making an assumption. I called you on it. My apologies for calling you a moron. But maybe you should follow the thread before leaping to a conclusion. Peace.

[Uturn]

Nah. to make top 5 he needs to fight Mosley after.

[GoogleMe]

Look, Im not trying to disrespect you, you seem like a decent poster, but saying you saw something in a fighters eyes is a bit of a leap. Exposed for to much hype? I can agree with that. But to many fighters in history have come back from one defeat to be productive. That is also the case with Kessler imo.

As far as the Oscar fight goes concerning both Pac and Floyd.....Neither fought a prime Oscar and neither deserves more credit than the other for their wins. They were money fights. A true test of grit is fighting the best fighters in their divisions. Manny has simply done more of that against better fighters. This doesn't detract from Floyds considerable skill, but its still a fact.

You should know what I mean. Kessler looked nervous before the fight with Ward, and I think you can a differnce in the eyes. You ain't disrespecting me, this is a conversation or discussion call it whatever you want. I've followed Kessler since he started as a prof fighter, and have seen many of his fights live.

Let's see what happens. I don't consider any of them an ATG, but I think one of them may end up reaching that status.

[JOM'S]

PAC will be high up there when and if he beats Floyd ....

IMHO in the long run, history will favor PAC and give him a lot of credit decades from now!

[The Great Shark]

Mayweather

De La Hoya-OLD
Gatti-Past Prime Old
Judah-OVERRATED
Baldimor-JOurneymen
Castillo-LOST 1st FIGHT
Corrales-WEIGHT DRAIN
JMM-OLD, PAST PRIME, 2 FAT
Hatton-not at his best weight

How was Corrales weight drained??? You are an idiot.