if Pac beats Mayweather and retires, is he automatically on the top 5 GOAT list?

[Journeyman]

remember what manny steward was saying on the pac/cotto broadcast, how pac is up there with the ray robinson's and ali's...as of right now, i don't think so, but if he was to beat mayweather and retire for good, would anyone put Pacquiao above those two on their lists?

[Cockfighter69]

Nope. Pac still has a long way to go. He's fought fighters who were either washed up, shopworn, weight drained, or old. IF he beats Money it will be the first legitimate victory of his career. Not to mention the cloud of su****ion hanging over Manny's record with the whole performance enhancing drugs.

[baracuda]

manny steward is right .......

[talip bin osman]

not "automatically"...

a "serious consideration" is probably the better term...

& not top 5... top 10 would be more fair...

just an opinion...

[hugh grant]

Nope. Pac still has a long way to go. He's fought fighters who were either washed up, shopworn, weight drained, or old. IF he beats Money it will be the first legitimate victory of his career. Not to mention the cloud of su****ion hanging over Manny's record with the whole performance enhancing drugs.

Shut it will you. So you know better than boxing historians do you? PBF beat people who in hindsight were not good in the first place.

Shop worn Cotto is better than anyone PBF has fought. PBF has fought even more shop worn people than Pac. A shop worn JMM who Pac downed so many times. A shop worn DLH beat by SSM and BH. And also a shop worn Hatton just about beaten by Collazo. Add that to his never were any really good Gatti, manfredys and Castillos of this world.

[The Great Shark]

I wouldn't say top 5. Top 5 would mean outshining prime opponents in a dominant fashion. He barely got a win over JMM, if beating a weight drained, over rated and a boxer that was damaged goods, then someone tell JMM to find those opponents so he can become a top 5 ATG.

[Nightelf]

Based on MEDIA BULL**** HYPE:::Hell yes
Based on Legit Resume:::: Not even close to an ATG STATUS let alone top 5.

Barrera 1-PAST PRIME
Morales1-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED-Erik DESTROYED Manny
Morales2-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Morales3-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Jmm-1 -Jmm Beat the crap out of Pacroid..
Jmm-2 PAST PRIME – Marquez beat up manny…AGAIN lmfao
Barrera2-PAST PRIME
Diaz-Got a gift decision against a SHOT Morales..
Delahoya- PASTPRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Hatton- PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Cotto-PASTPRIME? WEIGHT DRAINED..

THIS FOLKS is a REAL RESUME..Erik Morales:

Juan Carlos Ramirez..TKO12
Fernando Velardez..TKO5
Jose Luis Bueno..KO2
Kevin Kelly..TKO7
Guty EspadasX.. KO3
Wayne McCullough..UD12
Carlos Hernandez..UD2
In Jin Chi..UD12
Junior Jones..TKO4
Jesus Chavez..UD12
Daniel Zaragoza..KO11[39yrs]
Paulie Ayala..KO11
Marco Barrera..SD12
Manny Pacquiao..12 round ass kicking
David Diaz???[gift decision..?]

[JoeyNumbers]

If he gives Mayweather a beat down and then KO's Mosely(assuming he beats Berto) then he is in my top 5 ATG. I mean cleaning up an amazing welterweight class after cleaning up a legendary featherweight class would be pretty amazing.

Moralesx2 Barerrax2 Marquezx2

then

Mosley Maywether DelaHoya Cotto

That would be quite a resume', but a big IF.

[Nightelf]

If he gives Mayweather a beat down and then KO's Mosely(assuming he beats Berto) then he is in my top 5 ATG. I mean cleaning up an amazing welterweight class after cleaning up a legendary featherweight class would be pretty amazing.

Moralesx2 Barerrax2 Marquezx2

then

Mosley Maywether DelaHoya Cotto

That would be quite a resume', but a big IF.

all past prime and 3 ass kickings from Morales and Marquez...WOW what a resume..

[BUSINESSMAN]

his career will only be truly assessed when he retires. but no, i don't think so.