A scientific discussion on Pacquiao's steroid issue

[bigdognyc]

Michael Jordan was supposedly on steroids... Lance Armstrong was supposedly on steroids... Tiger Woods is on Steroids... And now Pacquiao is on steroids.... Thats how great this guy is.....

[Talon]

the good thing about all the people in denial that say "you're just jealous", "you're making excuses before the fight", "you're trying to drag him down"

they will be the reason people can keep getting away with it, they are the people getting KO'ed by the Jones', Toneys, and Holyfields .. and they will never suspect a thing!

these are the same people that vote for george bush because he's a good christian man.

ignorance is bliss

[rao007]

his face doesnt look the same at all.. he could barely grow a mustache before, now he has a full goatee. his head is squarer and more muscular.. you can tell by his facial expression and attitude (before the cotto fight for example) he's had a ton of androgens running through his veins. its not all about looks or weight guys, ive used, i know what it does. i can feel it. it changes your attitude it changes the way you think. why do you think he was so confident he could walk cotto down like that? because he knows anything cotto threw at him he could return with the same or more power, from the shoulder with improper form, as an arm punch. he's a beast right now, and not in a natural way. the only reason he's not hulking right now is because of all the cardio..

steroids is short for AAS - anabolic androgenic steroids

anabolic - makes more muscle mass
androgenic - more male characteristics (for example chest hair)

different steroids have different combinations of these.. for example deca is very anabolic and low androgenic so a lot of female bodybuilders use it. something like trenbolone is extremely androgenic and gives people hair loss and acne.

MANNY has been on something very androgenic.. no matter how much lifting weights (which he doesnt do) or eating he does. its gonna make him bigger but not grow more facial hair, or more muscles in his face. its so obvious! i like manny a lot too, but people defending him tooth and nail are a little too emotional. its not double crossing manny, or anything to point it out. he made the choice and he should be prepared to face the consequences. he's a grown man and is responsible for his own actions.. as shown by his cheating on his wife, hes not a ****ing nice boy like he pretends to be. he likes hurting people and dominating them. steroids are common in boxing and other sports.. theres a list a mile long of boxers that have been caught that didnt have the sudden results manny has. i dont hope anything bad happens to manny but im not going to live in denial and tell myself hes natural because i know better. i completely recognize his work ethic and dedication.

as others have said, mosley has passed tests recently but he is still reaping the benefits of years of drug use. you dont have to be on them the night of the fight to benefit. but i told myself i was done with this so i wont get into it anymore unless someone quotes me or asks a question

P.S. im a fan of floyd AND manny and i think they both use. i've used myself and know all about how some people are genetically gifted (seen it) and how some people work super hard (manny & floyd). i think manny's biggest gift may be his brain, same for floyd

ahh, yes, he does. If you want me AGAIN to post it up for you--I could do that. I've also already posted a pic of Manny with a gotee prior to his fight with Morales the first time. There's no increase in hair. Sorry, pare.

By the weigh, he does lift weights when he does plyometrics.

[FloppyDiskz]

Look at her facial features. She looks like she does steroids. Her face is masculinized.


The more y'all come up with, the worse you make it look for Manny. Do manny a favor and let this drop.

One guy earlier said it was the special Filipino coconut oil.

She's a Martial Artist first and foremost and far from a beauty queen but her book on Martial Arts Nutrition is a good read and provides excellent tips for those in training.

http://www.amazon.com/Martial-Arts-N...7675325&sr=1-2

here's some background info on her -

Teri Tom, MS, RD, is a board member of the Bruce Lee Foundation and a certified Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do instructor under Sifu Ted Wong.

Teri is also a registered dietitian with a BA in communications studies from UCLA, a master's degree in nutritional science from California State University, Los Angeles, and a certificate in personal training from the National Academy of Sports Medicine. She specializes in sports nutrition and runs her practice out of the exclusive SportsClub/LA in West Los Angeles.

[PAKYO]

But if we really look closely with all these roids allegations, Floyd is more suspect as he got slower and became fragile boned. He wasn't like that before when he was still at 140below.

You do know substance enhancer abuse makes you dumwitted you don't know you been contradicting yourself in one sentence and that's how floyd has beeen manifesting nowadays with all his interviews.

Just a food for thought.

[JMM_135_#1]

But if we really look closely with all these roids allegations, Floyd is more suspect as he got slower and became fragile boned. He wasn't like that before when he was still at 140below.

You do know substance enhancer abuse makes you dumwitted you don't know you been contradicting yourself in one sentence and that's how floyd has beeen manifesting nowadays with all his interviews.

Just a food for thought.

so him slowing down is a sign that he has been using PERFORMANCE ENHANCING drugs... ye that makes sense

try again

[VERDUGO]

*****s: Pac is on steroids.

Pacfan: What's your proof.?

*****s: Floyd Sr, Malignaggi and Cintron said so

Pacfans: They got no proof.

*****s: His head is too big:

Pacfans: But NSAC said he passed all the test.

*****s: NSAC test is unreliable

Pacfan: But they caught Vargas for steroids,Nino for Ampethamine, Chavez Jr for Diuretic? Why can't they catch Pacquiao?

*****s: Pac is taking undetectable steroids.

[JMM_135_#1]

*****s: Pac is on steroids.

Pacfan: What's your proof.?

*****s: Floyd Sr, Malignaggi and Cintron said so

Pacfans: They got no proof.

*****s: His head is too big:

Pacfans: But NSAC said he passed all the test.

*****s: NSAC test is unreliable

Pacfan: But they caught Vargas for steroids,Nino for Ampethamine, Chavez Jr for Diuretic? Why can't they catch Pacquiao?

*****s: Pac is taking undetectable steroids.

just like they caught mosley and jones

[rao007]

just like they caught mosley and jones

As someone said earlier, that was in the 90s, Marion Jones was I think caught in 2006 when she was tested.

[JMM_135_#1]

As someone said earlier, that was in the 90s, Marion Jones was I think caught in 2006 or something.

the testing hasnt really changed, the drugs have, its still urine tests in boxing, most modern steroids wont be detected this way

also mosley was doping aroun 2003-2004, not the 90's, jones was around the same time, again not in the '90's'