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  • #21
    Originally posted by tracylee
    Well, the thing about Legendar Nights is that the fights have to meet certain standards to be worthy of that series...not one of their 3 bouts made anyone's heart speed up a bit, so I dont think they would ever enter it...besides, it's also based on whats going on outside the ring where the fight and both fighters are concerned. Hopkins-Allen..was there alot of drama before any of their fights?
    I was being sarcastic. Allen sucks!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by exciterx21
      I was being sarcastic. Allen sucks!
      Lol, gotcha! But honestly, with Nards ego, it wouldnt surprise me if that was his mentality!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by exciterx21
        Maybe Hopkins thought that he was going to be part of the next legendary trilogy in boxing. That's why he faced Allen three times. That was going to be his Ali-Frazier or Barrera-Morales tribute. A sure entry into the Hall of Fame.
        Man, this is pitiful. How the hell can you bag on the most accomplished fighter of your generation for his competition especially when Trinidad's record is littered with dead bodies BEFORE he ever got in the ring with em! Who were all those ****ers he beat before "defeating" DLH? Are you ****ing kidding? When he "beat" DLH he didn't even think he won; he was relieved to win but he knew in his heart he was getting the **** beat out of him every round that Oscar actually fought. Trinidad's recorded opponents are the one thing none of his nuthuggers refer to because ... well, he fought a buncha chumps for the most part. Swee Pea wasn't the same fighter and likely an addict at the time they met.

        The only reasons Tito might be keen to fight Hopkins again is for the same reason he did the first time: he wants to steal all Hopkins claim to greatness and assume it himself. He knows Hopkins is an aging fighter and likely less capable than before, he'll make a mint for it and he may have forgotten how impotent he looked flailing away with his hook and getting beaten silly til he looked like he'd been doing ******* himself.

        His ONLY hope is that Hopkins starts showing his age and tht doesn't speak much for big bad Tito. He still won't be facing a welterweight like Mayorga and I would still pick Hopkins if they meet in the next 9 months.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Shaolin Bushido
          Man, this is pitiful. How the hell can you bag on the most accomplished fighter of your generation for his competition especially when Trinidad's record is littered with dead bodies BEFORE he ever got in the ring with em! Who were all those ****ers he beat before "defeating" DLH? Are you ****ing kidding? When he "beat" DLH he didn't even think he won; he was relieved to win but he knew in his heart he was getting the **** beat out of him every round that Oscar actually fought. Trinidad's recorded opponents are the one thing none of his nuthuggers refer to because ... well, he fought a buncha chumps for the most part. Swee Pea wasn't the same fighter and likely an addict at the time they met.

          The only reasons Tito might be keen to fight Hopkins again is for the same reason he did the first time: he wants to steal all Hopkins claim to greatness and assume it himself. He knows Hopkins is an aging fighter and likely less capable than before, he'll make a mint for it and he may have forgotten how impotent he looked flailing away with his hook and getting beaten silly til he looked like he'd been doing ******* himself.

          His ONLY hope is that Hopkins starts showing his age and tht doesn't speak much for big bad Tito. He still won't be facing a welterweight like Mayorga and I would still pick Hopkins if they meet in the next 9 months.
          No one is bashing the guy. Maybe if you paid attention you would not have to write all that testament. The point here is about the fights he chose and the justifications, not what the man has accomplished in his very solid career. Do you feel like you know everything and you are always right? Because most of your posts are criticizing others' opinions. Learn to deal with the comments made by others.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by exciterx21
            No one is bashing the guy. Maybe if you paid attention you would not have to write all that testament. The point here is about the fights he chose and the justifications, not what the man has accomplished in his very solid career. Do you feel like you know everything and you are always right? Because most of your posts are criticizing others' opinions. Learn to deal with the comments made by others.
            Shaolin Bushido sounds like a nuthuger, I'm senseing he has emotional problems.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              So he fought Allen three times cause hes five-dimensional?
              The way you guys make excuses for Hopkins is sad.
              What do you want Hopkins to do, kid?

              He fights Allen once, the fight is a no-contest,. He fights him again and tko's him, Allen earns a shot by becoming a mandatory, so Hopkins fights him again (a 3rd time) not wanting to get stripped. If a champ doesn't fight a mandatory challenger in the time allowed, he gets stripped. Why are you acting like you're new to boxing or something?

              The whole Robert Allen argument is weak.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by exciterx21
                No one is bashing the guy. Maybe if you paid attention you would not have to write all that testament. The point here is about the fights he chose and the justifications, not what the man has accomplished in his very solid career. Do you feel like you know everything and you are always right? Because most of your posts are criticizing others' opinions. Learn to deal with the comments made by others.
                Look son, why the **** are you worrying about the length or content of my posts? I read dozens that are longer and more ******ed on here every ****ing day. I might take your advice more seriously if you weren't so condescending and had some credibility with me but I actually don't ever recall any of your posts.

                I posted my thoughts and moved on but obviously you need to learn to deal with comments made by others yourself.

                Iwatchboxing ... suck a ****.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
                  Hopkins is scared, cause this time Trinidad would come in with another gameplan, leaving Hopkins without anything to study.
                  Last time he knew how he would come in, this time he wont.

                  what proves that Tito would have a new gameplan? He fights the same way every single fight, when someone figures him out, he becomes ordinary. That is why he lost to Hopkins the first time, he probably would have beaten bernard if he wasnt so one-dimensional. If he could have altered his gameplan the first time(why didnt he, if he's going to do it now? was it the socks?) it certainly would have been a different fight. There's no way Hopkins would be scared of a man that he pummeled into semi-retirement. Plain and simple. I know your PR and a Tito fan, but its the truth.

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                  • #29
                    If Hopkins was scared of a rematch with Tito (No way guys!) Why did TITO RETIRE and not Hopkins? Can you please explain that to me Iwatchboxing?

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                    • #30
                      hopkins aint scared of no one, period!! all he is trying to do is set up the maximum payday before he hangs up the gloves, for one. two, you never know what is the deal with all his legal problems. he's got the don king thing lingering around, the lou dibella thing going on, who knows what else. but the politics in boxing are a *****. after getting all the legal **** out of the way, and negotiating for money and things, the fighting is the easy part( not really) but you have two fights going on there....
                      ignorance says he's scared, and ******ity says he prices himself too high, when in reality the mans conducting bussiness and boxing...plus i'm sure there is alot more going on then we are even aware about.......either way he'll ko tito again, no worries there, tito hasn't changed!!!

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