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  • #41
    Originally posted by Moonra69
    Where's the risk. Don't you all say that BHop dominated Tito easily. If you are that superior you can do it twice. NO FEAR!
    All they had to do was pay the man. You act as if Trinidad had something to lose compared to Hopkins.

    Trinidad was the reason the gate was so big.

    Hopkins was the reason Trinidad had to keep fighting apparently, since he retired and yet he did retire rather than get up off some of the money he'd have made so he could get his revenge.

    Now ... who didn't want the fight again?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Shaolin Bushido
      Man, this is pitiful. How the hell can you bag on the most accomplished fighter of your generation for his competition especially when Trinidad's record is littered with dead bodies BEFORE he ever got in the ring with em! Who were all those ****ers he beat before "defeating" DLH? Are you ****ing kidding? When he "beat" DLH he didn't even think he won; he was relieved to win but he knew in his heart he was getting the **** beat out of him every round that Oscar actually fought. Trinidad's recorded opponents are the one thing none of his nuthuggers refer to because ... well, he fought a buncha chumps for the most part. Swee Pea wasn't the same fighter and likely an addict at the time they met.

      The only reasons Tito might be keen to fight Hopkins again is for the same reason he did the first time: he wants to steal all Hopkins claim to greatness and assume it himself. He knows Hopkins is an aging fighter and likely less capable than before, he'll make a mint for it and he may have forgotten how impotent he looked flailing away with his hook and getting beaten silly til he looked like he'd been doing ******* himself.

      His ONLY hope is that Hopkins starts showing his age and tht doesn't speak much for big bad Tito. He still won't be facing a welterweight like Mayorga and I would still pick Hopkins if they meet in the next 9 months.
      Here is a list of fighters he beat before DLH: he THOROUGHLY OUTBOXED Camacho (a pure, southpaw boxer), KO'd Yory Boy Campas who was 56-0 w/ 50 KOs at the time, Oba Carr (undefeated at 32-0 at the time), and Whitaker (who had arguably not lost even though he had been through drug rehab). You seem to be a DLH nuthugger, tho, but fail to realize how many fighters DLH has faced after Trinidad beat them (Oba Carr, Fernando Vargas, Yory Boy Campas, and Camacho) and all the gift decisions he has received (Whitaker, John Molina, Ike Quartey, and Felix Sturm). Also, he picks on washed up fighters like Campas and JC Superstar. DLH hasn't been good since he fought at 135. He was mediocre at 140 and 147, and a shadow of himself at 154 and 160. I just love it when people try and say that Trinidad got a gift against DLH but they forget how many gifts DLH had previously.


      Originally posted by GodzHand
      If Hopkins was scared of a rematch with Tito (No way guys!) Why did TITO RETIRE and not Hopkins? Can you please explain that to me Iwatchboxing?
      Tito retired, according to his father, because there were no big fights left for him. DLH kept pricing himself out of a rematch, Hopkins wasn't trying to fight him for whatever reason, and there was nobody else left to fight. He fought Cherifi with the hopes that Hopkins would fight him after Daniels but Hopkins again renegged on the contract (as shown by court transcripts and the reason HBO is siding with DKP instead of with Hopkins) and didn't fight for over a year when he then took on Hakkar. Tito saw no reason to stay since Hopkins didn't want the fight. He came back because of the posibility to fight Hopkins and because he missed the sport. I won't get into arguments about who would defeat whom in a rematch (I believe Tito would edge him out this time). We'll just have to agree to disagree and wait for the fight to happen (and I believe it will be Nards next AND last fight).

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      • #43
        Well said. Let's see now what happens on May 14...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by PRboxingfan
          Here is a list of fighters he beat before DLH: he THOROUGHLY OUTBOXED Camacho (a pure, southpaw boxer), KO'd Yory Boy Campas who was 56-0 w/ 50 KOs at the time, Oba Carr (undefeated at 32-0 at the time), and Whitaker (who had arguably not lost even though he had been through drug rehab). You seem to be a DLH nuthugger, tho, but fail to realize how many fighters DLH has faced after Trinidad beat them (Oba Carr, Fernando Vargas, Yory Boy Campas, and Camacho) and all the gift decisions he has received (Whitaker, John Molina, Ike Quartey, and Felix Sturm). Also, he picks on washed up fighters like Campas and JC Superstar. DLH hasn't been good since he fought at 135. He was mediocre at 140 and 147, and a shadow of himself at 154 and 160. I just love it when people try and say that Trinidad got a gift against DLH but they forget how many gifts DLH had previously.



          Tito retired, according to his father, because there were no big fights left for him. DLH kept pricing himself out of a rematch, Hopkins wasn't trying to fight him for whatever reason, and there was nobody else left to fight. He fought Cherifi with the hopes that Hopkins would fight him after Daniels but Hopkins again renegged on the contract (as shown by court transcripts and the reason HBO is siding with DKP instead of with Hopkins) and didn't fight for over a year when he then took on Hakkar. Tito saw no reason to stay since Hopkins didn't want the fight. He came back because of the posibility to fight Hopkins and because he missed the sport. I won't get into arguments about who would defeat whom in a rematch (I believe Tito would edge him out this time). We'll just have to agree to disagree and wait for the fight to happen (and I believe it will be Nards next AND last fight).
          Haha, don't make me laugh boy. Me, a DLH nuthugger? You muh****a's love throwin that around but you may as well stop. That **** isn't provocative to me at all. As a matter of fact I love talkin **** to racists ****s like yourself.

          As I just remarked to one of my friends, Tito wouldn't piss on you if you were on FIRE and probably would never acknowledge any type of connection to you so you may as well get off his ****; he likes females.

          As I told one of your other boricua's(how many muh****as have a version of that username here) your knowledge may be impressive as far as boxing but you should learn how to express yourself decently. Maybe ... just maybe someone will actually hear you despite your mouth being full of Tito's ****.

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          • #45
            **** off, Shaolin ****head! You think that your goddamn opinions are facts and if they disagree with you then they are nuthuggers. What the **** have I written to be a nuthugger, you jerkoff! Just stay the **** away and find something better to do with your worthless time. It seems like you get off starting feuds with other posters who don't even give a **** about what you think. I am not the only one here who noticed this ****.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by exciterx21
              **** off, Shaolin ****head! You think that your goddamn opinions are facts and if they disagree with you then they are nuthuggers. What the **** have I written to be a nuthugger, you jerkoff! Just stay the **** away and find something better to do with your worthless time. It seems like you get off starting feuds with other posters who don't even give a **** about what you think. I am not the only one here who noticed this ****.
              So. You should view your own trash and then open your suck, *****. I challenge anyone to objectively view an exchange I've had with some **** who's taken exception to my posts and tell me I initiated a nasty discussion.

              I just don't take your ****ing ****.

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              • #47
                *scans thread, satisfied of the idiocy of detractor's comments, then pisses all over boricua, borikua, BORICUA, Boriqua and excited*

                Oops, you looked alittle hot there, boss.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Shaolin Bushido
                  So. You should view your own trash and then open your suck, *****. I challenge anyone to objectively view an exchange I've had with some **** who's taken exception to my posts and tell me I initiated a nasty discussion.

                  I just don't take your ****ing ****.
                  Sure, and that makes you a big gun, right? I have never quoted you, criticize your ****** opinion or anything. Then you start assuming **** that I did not even mean. You started to write that I was dissing Hopkins when all I was doing was a sarcastic joke and I even explained it to Tracy Lee. I've seen how you start to call other users nuthuggers or even worse **** if they have a point of view that differs from yours. You write about expressing yourself decently, well, why don't you start to do it yourself? If you have a doubt about what somebody mean, ask them or just stay away, because that attitude is not the appropiate one. In other words, your approach sucks.
                  Last edited by Exciterx30; 04-18-2005, 02:33 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by exciterx21
                    Sure, and that makes you a big gun, right? I have never quoted you, criticize you ****** opinion or anything. Then you start assuming **** that I did not even mean. You started to write that I was dissing Hopkins when all I was doing was a sarcastic joke and I even explained it to Tracy Lee. I've seen how you start to call other users nuthuggers or even worse **** if they have a point of view that differs from yours. You write about expressing yourself decently, well, why don't you start to do it yourself? If you have a doubt about what somebody meant. Ask them or just stay away, because that attitude is not the appropiate one. In other words, your approach sucks.
                    As does yours, son. Look! There's something in your own eye!

                    My initial post ... the one that you and one of those other guys jumped on and made nasty ****ed up comments about(you probably don't remember that one), even the nuthugging **** is just a blatant lie. The only reason for even bringing that up in a boxing discussion is to taunt or infuriate. I recognize that but it far from infuriates me; it makes me want to taunt and infuriate you! If it works, fine. If not. That's fine too! Obviously I accomplished that with you. You better get over it cause there ain't a damn thing you can do about it.

                    Treat me differently, I might treat you differntly. I don't ****in bow down to no one who disrespects me nor should I.

                    Take that for what it's worth.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Shaolin Bushido
                      *scans thread, satisfied of the idiocy of detractor's comments, then pisses all over boricua, borikua, BORICUA, Boriqua and excited*

                      Oops, you looked alittle hot there, boss.

                      Watch your mouth boy...

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