Comments Thread For: Paul Williams Living Life on The D-List

[jkaisen41]

Disagree with most of this. I used to be a Williams detractor. I wasn't overwhelmed with his performance against Margarito (primarily because I've never been too impressed with Margarito), but how anyone came away unimpressed with Williams' performance against Winky is beyond me. Winky may have had some rust, but Williams dominated him from start to finish. He threw multi-punch combinations all night long and barely allowed Wright time to blink, much less throw back. That fight, more than any other IMO, illustrated why guys like Floyd, Cotto and even SSM (how many fighters does Shane duck?) have wanted no part of PWill. He may not be the smoothest fighter out there (he's getting smoother though), but, because of his size, reach and work rate, he is clearly the most dangerous from 147-160lbs. He presents an incredibly difficult matchup for any fighter at those weights. That is why they all pretend like the man doesn't exist. It won't ever happen, but, if it did, I would bet my house that Williams would beat and very possibly KO Floyd. I'd hate to see it, but he'd very likely do the same to Shane.

No problem, not everybody needs to have the same opinion dude.

I disagree... Winky Wright is nothing very special. I know everybody makes him out to be great and all that... he is awkward to fight... but he has not very fast hands, he doesn't throw much of combinations, he's a good defender but stationary and he has no power at all... so basically if your bigger then him and have reach on him and throw 100 punches per round I really don't know how Winky should beat you. It was an good performance... but it was nothing to be remembered and that's what I'm talking about... if he fights fighters who smaller then him he has to bring something special or otherwise it simply looks like a bigger man, with way bigger reach beating up a smaller man... who is interested in that? He should fight guys like Martinez and Pavlik and we will see how he does.

Yeah, of course he is dangerous... usually his style would be beatable... the problem is his size... he will have a hard time getting somebody at 147. And like stated that is something that I can absolutely understand on the part of the 147 pounders. At 54 and 60 he will find guys who man up to him and then we will see if he still throws 100 punches per round if he gets punched in his face.

That he outworks Mayweather possible... but KO, never ever... not enough power and not fast enough hands... he could definitely beat Mosley... Mosley always had problems against guys who can stand up to him and have boxing skills... but KO again, I don't think so... if somebody throws this much punches like P-Will and has no KO's against top competition I simply can't consider him a big enough puncher. I also think that he will have his hands full with the power of 54 and 60 pounders. The way he is build it looks that he could be chinny. No way until now to prove that point just my thoughts if you know other fighters who were build like that. That's why I was interested in Pavlik fight. P-Will is not such a good defender like Hopkins and if he eats some leather from Pavlik... it could have been interesting... but I guess the fight comes around next year... Martinez, even if he should beat him impressive... I would doubt that somebody at 147 jumps high in the air and says... yes, now it's on... also guys like Kirkland who can do some bob and weave could tear him apart if he lands... that would be good match ups for him

[Iceta]

Another thing about Margarito too. Is he only fought twice a year at the most and had an even worse resume than Williams does now before he got a shot at Cotto. Had he ever beaten somebody on Winky Wright's level? Fuck no. His best wins were over Cintron and Clottey. Nothing that impressive. His resume was about the same as Williams has now barring Paul's win over him. Basically where I'm getting at is Williams is having the same kind of problems he did when it comes to getting big name fighters having the stones to get in the ring with him.

Also, why do people discredit Paul's win over Winky Wright when Bernard Hopkins is the one who made him move up in weight and Hopkins also went life and death with him?

[jkaisen41]

Another thing about Margarito too. Is he only fought twice a year at the most and had an even worse resume than Williams does now before he got a shot at Cotto. Had he ever beaten somebody on Winky Wright's level? Fuck no. His best wins were over Cintron and Clottey. Nothing that impressive. His resume was about the same as Williams has now barring Paul's win over him. Basically where I'm getting at is Williams is having the same kind of problems he did when it comes to getting big name fighters having the stones to get in the ring with him.

Also, why do people discredit Paul's win over Winky Wright when Bernard Hopkins is the one who made him move up in weight and go life and death with him?

I think you really can't compare these two... because Williams has actually skill... Margarito ain't got much skill... he has great chin but that is nothing you can learn. As soon as somebody could handle the phsycial aspect of Margarito he pretty much lost the match. Mosley, Williams, Santos etc. Williams has some boxing skill and on top is even taller and has an even bigger reach. Margarito was not the guy who fought his size with jab and all that. Margarito's claim to fame was pretty much that Floyd ''ducked'' him... that was his biggest fight and what he was known for... before Cotto and all that handwrap ****.

Margarito is also mexican and I would say that he had an bigger following or at least a bigger amount of ppl who would pay for him. Like I said... P-Will has simply nothing special that ppl start to jump on his bandwagon. On top of that he always fights smaller man... so for the normal boxing fan he ain't offers much. Pryor-Arguello fight, when they throw 100 bombs in the round that was excitement... if I see P-Will throw 100 punches per round it's pretty much the most boring 100 punches you will ever see... most is pitty-pattern... he will have a hard time... he has to make statements... beating up and old Winky is nice but nothing special... knock him out and ppl will start wondering. Knock Martinez out... simply do something that not many ppl can do... I mean as Hearns knocked out Duran it was like the world would stop...

[TheUptownKid]

In all honesty, I think a Dzinziruk-Williams fight in the US would bomb worse that Wright-Williams.

They'd have to dim the lights and paper all kinds of seats to make it look like anyone was there.

For whatever reason, Williams just doesn't put asses in seats, and at times his promoters can be hard to work with according to reports from the Arum's etc.

I am looking forward to an entertaining fight tonight.
Perhaps Martinez can give PWill some problems with his crafty style.

he doesnt get love bc people see his size and expect hearns. They even compare him to hearns on this thread, they see the taller longer man and expect him to knock heads off. PW is not that. He has every punch, a natural advantage over competition, good hand speed, strong chin, unbelievable stamina, but not killer power. He isnt pint sized tyson and he's also not really that charismatic. In the world of popular appeal, he aint makin noise. But he had a belt and didnt fight for almost a year. Damned if you do damned if you dont, nobody talkin bout unifying anymore so....

[Iceta]

I think you really can't compare these two... because Williams has actually skill... Margarito ain't got much skill... he has great chin but that is nothing you can learn. As soon as somebody could handle the phsycial aspect of Margarito he pretty much lost the match. Mosley, Williams, Santos etc. Williams has some boxing skill and on top is even taller and has an even bigger reach. Margarito was not the guy who fought his size with jab and all that. Margarito's claim to fame was pretty much that Floyd ''ducked'' him... that was his biggest fight and what he was known for... before Cotto and all that handwrap ****.

Margarito is also mexican and I would say that he had an bigger following or at least a bigger amount of ppl who would pay for him. Like I said... P-Will has simply nothing special that ppl start to jump on his bandwagon. On top of that he always fights smaller man... so for the normal boxing fan he ain't offers much. Pryor-Arguello fight, when they throw 100 bombs in the round that was excitement... if I see P-Will throw 100 punches per round it's pretty much the most boring 100 punches you will ever see... most is pitty-pattern... he will have a hard time... he has to make statements... beating up and old Winky is nice but nothing special... knock him out and ppl will start wondering. Knock Martinez out... simply do something that not many ppl can do... I mean as Hearns knocked out Duran it was like the world would stop...

He scored a dramatic one punch KO over Quintana. That's just one opponent though and I agree that he will need some more devastating KOs than that to create buzz around fans. But who has ever KOd Winky Wright?

[CottoOverrated1]

So Jones was weathering the storm? The way I saw it he wasn't throwing anything back at Green so the ref had to stop it. How many unaswered blows is needed before a stoppage?

And the myth about Williams being avoided must stop. What about Dzinziruk? He called out Williams more than a year ago. Challenging Paul to fight in USA. Paul went: Sergei who?

hey ****** *****, can I tell you something, you ****** lil euro *****. hey listen, dzinzuruk was goibg to get punished today on this very day, but unfortunately dzinzuruk is in a contract dispute and is fighting no time soon. dzinzuruk was team williams' number one choice. Sorry Most Feared title stays.

[DoomCity202]

too much reach and foot work

which is why none @ 147 want to fight him

you notice he never called forrests name

[sceneboxing]

I'm a big Williams fan but he can't get mega fights because he has nothing to offer. No belt, no recognition.

He needs to start fighting division champions to get belts, then he will start to get bigger fights.

edit: he should fight on the Pacquiao-Mayweather undercard, that would give him more exposure.

[TheUptownKid]

I'm a big Williams fan but he can't get mega fights because he has nothing to offer. No belt, no recognition.

He needs to start fighting division champions to get belts, then he will start to get bigger fights.

edit: he should fight on the Pacquiao-Mayweather undercard, that would give him more exposure.

he had a belt and michael jennings and miguel cotto at #1 and 2 challenger

[apokalips]

Williams needs to keep active and make sure he beats Martinez. Pavlik has already expresed interest in fighting the winner and if P Will wins and the Pav fight don't happen then Pav is defo duckin him