Vitali KlitschkO

[SacTown1]

well if he fougth 7 rounds with a torn cuff and the fight lasted to the 9th, stopped before the 10th began, it would be the second round. some people say round 4 i hear round 2, either way fighting 5-7 sounds with that injury liek that isnt god. and hell if fighting with an injury makes u a ***** ass ***** and makes u quitali hell where do i sign up?

if he could continue for 7 rounds though, why not 3 more? THAT'S why he got the Quitschko label, he shoulda complained about the injury AFTER a UD victory, personally I feel that once Byrd solved his style that Vitali didn't wanna get embarassed so he took the easy way out, but once again just my opinion

[AintGottaClue]

if he could continue for 7 rounds though, why not 3 more? THAT'S why he got the Quitschko label, he shoulda complained about the injury AFTER a UD victory, personally I feel that once Byrd solved his style that Vitali didn't wanna get embarassed so he took the easy way out, but once again just my opinion

u can only bear pain so long, why dotn u go tear yr rotator cup and fight for 7 rounds if u can

[Bozo_no no]

u can only bear pain so long, why dotn u go tear yr rotator cup and fight for 7 rounds if u can

Holyfield sustained the same injury in the 1st round vs Byrd, and fought 11 more rounds in a fight he had to know he was losing.

[Stickman]

if he could continue for 7 rounds though, why not 3 more? THAT'S why he got the Quitschko label, he shoulda complained about the injury AFTER a UD victory, personally I feel that once Byrd solved his style that Vitali didn't wanna get embarassed so he took the easy way out, but once again just my opinion

He retired from the fight for several reasons.....A torn rotator cuff is excruciating, in and of itself...speaking from experience here. Also, if abuse continues, a that particular injury can become unrepairable by surgery, leaving a permanent limitation in mobility of the arm....also speaking from experience here. Additionally, Klitchko wasn't sure he was winning the fight. He felt that he was behind on the cards, and was going to be fighting for the rest of the fight to no purpose.....an understandable sentiment, when you're in pain and fighting injured. You just aren't going to feel like things are going your way, no matter what they seem like to most others.

I don't blame him for stopping. Do I think he probably should've finished? Sure, but then why wouldn't I think that? I wasn't the one standing there in the ring taking punches, with a torn shoulder and thinking I was losing the fight anyway. And I did finish out a day once, during my time in the military, with a torn rotator cuff. I was young, 10' tall and bulletproof (weren't we all?), and thought I was tough enough to gut out the rest of that day and recover completely later on...I was wrong, and to this day, I regret my decision. It's entirely possible that Vitali might've ended up like me, with fairly limited mobility in his left arm, and ruined the rest of his career.

Anyway, my point is....why second guess someone's decision if you've never been in that situation? All these armchair champs declaring Klitchko a quitter because he made a choice only he was qualified to make at the time, really start to get on my nerves. I'd like to see one of them, just once, spend 5+ rounds of a fight with a torn rotator cuff on their jabbing shoulder.

[Bozo_no no]

All these armchair champs declaring Klitchko a quitter because he made a choice only he was qualified to make at the time, really start to get on my nerves. I'd like to see one of them, just once, spend 5+ rounds of a fight with a torn rotator cuff on their jabbing shoulder.

I didn't see anyone here call him a quitter.

Did quitting in that fight make him a quitter? No.

Did it mean he lost the fight and Bryd beat him?

Without a doubt.

[AintGottaClue]

I didn't see anyone here call him a quitter.

Did quitting in that fight make him a quitter? No.

Did it mean he lost the fight and Bryd beat him?

Without a doubt.

you havent seen people call him a quiter here? LMAO!!! did u joni yesterday?

[hollister]

Lewis beat a washed up Tyson in a fight where he was 36, and Tyson was 35. Lewis then took off a year and put on a bunch of weight, and came back to fight Vitali
when he 37.

He had been inactive, came in at his highest career weight (256.5), and was 37. That's far from a prime and conditioned Lennox Lewis.

A IN SHAPE Lennox Lewis was as effective as he ever had been.

Lewis fought as well as he ever had, and had been fighting in the 250's on and off for a while when he fought Vitali. He may not have entered the fight in top condition (his fault), but he was not past it by any means. Stamina is one thing, but he was as fast as he ever had been at 37, considering he never posessed blinding hand or footspeed in the first place. Louis had lost the desire to train, or fight for that matter, and was only doing it for the money. He was in terrible shape for that fight, and many of them before that for that matter. Ali, no matter what shape he was in physically, would not have been successful at that point in his career, his reflexes were gone, his mind wasn't right, and he had a thyroid problem. Lewis cannot be compared to those two because his size would have allowed him to fight past the age limits of many other smaller fighters, had he chosen to do so, just as it will Wlad and VK, again, if they choose to do so.

[Bozo_no no]

you havent seen people call him a quiter here? LMAO!!! did u joni yesterday?

I'm talking about this thread.

[Bozo_no no]

A IN SHAPE Lennox Lewis was as effective as he ever had been.

Lewis fought as well as he ever had, and had been fighting in the 250's on and off for a while when he fought Vitali. He may not have entered the fight in top condition (his fault), but he was not past it by any means. Stamina is one thing, but he was as fast as he ever had been at 37, considering he never posessed blinding hand or footspeed in the first place. Louis had lost the desire to train, or fight for that matter, and was only doing it for the money. He was in terrible shape for that fight, and many of them before that for that matter. Ali, no matter what shape he was in physically, would not have been successful at that point in his career, his reflexes were gone, his mind wasn't right, and he had a thyroid problem. Lewis cannot be compared to those two because his size would have allowed him to fight past the age limits of many other smaller fighters, had he chosen to do so, just as it will Wlad and VK, again, if they choose to do so.

The point is, nearly every Heavyweight champion is less and less effective after the age of 35. Beating Tyson didn't take a lot for Lewis, because Tyson was a mental mess.

A 37 year old Lewis not fighting for a year, gaining weight, and then coming in at a career high (the only other time he came near to that was in the 1st Rahman fight) was FAR from a sharp primed Lennox Lewis. There is no room for debate on this.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

I didn't see anyone here call him a quitter.

Did quitting in that fight make him a quitter? No.

Did it mean he lost the fight and Bryd beat him?

Without a doubt.

Here we go again:
I'll spell it out for you.. maybe the third time's the charm and even a bozo can understand.

Yes, Vitali LOST to Byrd (by not continuing to fight)
a big However... Byrd NEVER BEAT Vitali! A "W" does not mean he is a better fighter. He did not beat him by points, nor did he knock him out...

Read Stickman's post again! And who the hell are you to judge his decision?