Vitali KlitschkO

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Bozo,

..You're the biggest bozo I've ever seen. Why are you so stubborn? Can't you read and comprehend what others are writing?

1st - I asked not to turn Vitali's losses into a discussion, and you did just that

3) Vitali KlitschkO never "REALLY" lost a fight (please lets not turn this one into a whole new discussion)

2nd - I was not denying that Vitali did not loose to Byrd... I said BYRD NEVER BEAT HIM..

READ what I said earlier:

Yes a loss is a loss, but Vitali's injury should not be Byrds accomplishment. How the hell did Byrd set him up to tore his whatever in his shoulder? You don't make any sense!

Vitali lost to Byrd, but Byrd never beat him! There is a difference!
It's like in pool... I can get all of my balls in while you have all of yours on the table... and I scratch on the 8 ball... the outcome, I lost, but did you beat me? Does that make you a better player?
NOOOOOO! Thus: BYRD NEVER BEAT VITALI, ****** him retired due to an injury, while winning most, or all of the rounds!

I REST MY CASE

Why is it that every post where you’re involved, you just keep going and going and going.. You're not the Energizer Bunny, you're just a Bozo No-No!
You have your opinion and I have mine... this is a forum where people speak freely, but for some reason you always try to impose your opinion and do take into consideration the replies that you get..
Very ignorant!

[Bozo_no no]

You can't make an ignorant statement and follow it up with "Lets not debate this".

I read what you said, and it was trying to justify a loss as something as something other than what it is.

You act as though his losses weren't really real.

They were, and what you left out of your list, is that Vitali is 0-2 in the biggest fights of his career (against the two best guys he's fought).

I didn't like you saying it in the 1st place, and didn't like your explaination trying to justify your comment.

Vitali "REALLY" did lose two fights.

Byrd beat Klitschko by outlasting him in a fight that was difficult for both of them. Byrd may have only won two rounds,
but they were at the end of the fight. I suggest you watch this
fight again. Byrd landed some excellent body shots, and was really putting up a good fight at the end, and Vitali quit.

Lennox Lewis landed 50% of his power punches in his fight with Vitali, and as a result, Vitali's face looked like hamburger and the fight was stopped. Lennox Lewis beat Vitali Klitschko.

If you think somone disagreeing with your opinion is out of line, then don't state it.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

You can't make an ignorant statement and follow it up with "Lets not debate this".

I read what you said, and it was trying to justify a loss as something as something other than what it is.

You act as though his losses weren't really real.

They were, and what you left out of your list, is that Vitali is 0-2 in the biggest fights of his career (against the two best guys he's fought).

I didn't like you saying it in the 1st place, and didn't like your explaination trying to justify your comment.

Vitali "REALLY" did lose two fights.

Byrd beat Klitschko by outlasting him in a fight that was difficult for both of them. Byrd may have only won two rounds,
but they were at the end of the fight. I suggest you watch this
fight again. Byrd landed some excellent body shots, and was really putting up a good fight at the end, and Vitali quit.

Lennox Lewis landed 50% of his power punches in his fight with Vitali, and as a result, Vitali's face looked like hamburger and the fight was stopped. Lennox Lewis beat Vitali Klitschko.

If you think somone disagreeing with your opinion is out of line, then don't state it.

You know, for some reason your nick name "Bozo No No" fits you so damn well...

If you think somone disagreeing with your opinion is out of line, then don't state it.

When have I ever said that??

This thread wwas not to discuss Vitali's losses, I asked a question as to why he is not concidered a top p4p fighter, and people answered!

But you know what, do me and yourself a favor.. don't reply to this... I will not even continue on arguing anything with you!
P O I N T L E S S!

P.S. Something really leads me to believe that you will not even do that!

[Bozo_no no]

I will not even continue on arguing anything with you!

P O I N T L E S S!

I agree, discussing this with you is P O I N T L E S S!

[dando]

The reason that Vitali is not considered a pound for pound top fighter is because if you shrunk him down to middleweight, he would get smacked down by b-hop. If Corry Spinks was physically the same as he is now, and just was a 250 pound version of himself, he would be able to destroy Vitali.

[Stickman]

The reason that Vitali is not considered a pound for pound top fighter is because if you shrunk him down to middleweight, he would get smacked down by b-hop. If Corry Spinks was physically the same as he is now, and just was a 250 pound version of himself, he would be able to destroy Vitali.

I disagree. Vitali depends a great deal on his reflexes and his conditioning, and they serve him very well. There are other fighters who've done the same, and were considered pound for pound all-time-greats....Roy Jones Jr. comes to mine as being at the top of that list. Granted, Jones is far more naturally talented than Klitchko could ever hope to be, but I think Klitchko is far smarter than Jones could ever hope to be as well, so there's somewhat of a trade off there. I still wouldn't consider Klitchko near the top of the heap on a pound for pound rating, but he's certainly not a bottom feeder either.

Also...if Corry Spinks were a heavyweight, he'd still be a dancer with a big mouth and no power, who'd get smacked down by the first guy who catches him flush with a few big solid shots. He'd be a joke no matter what division he fought in.

[Truth]

If VK beats Rahman when they fight I will admit he is the real champion.

[Kid Achilles]

Yeah Spinks was a poor example. He'd be another Chris Byrd though a little taller as Spinks isn't short for his weightclass. But you have to believe that a 230 lb. Kostya Tszyu would annihilate Vitali.

[kapersky]

why vitali not considering as the best p4p?. its because he havent fight any "big" name and win(kirk johnsonn?) . becuase of his size yeah lewis was also as big as he but lewis fough big name and won he also came back when he lost and won. now that lewis retired he could be the best now but not p4p because all champs now
isnt big name. he si no doubt a very good boxer but not on my top 10
p4p of all time.

[AintGottaClue]

what soem idiotic post. a 230 pound zoo or spinks would beat vitali. what a laugh. vitali fought byrd for 7 rounds with a torn rotator cuff, have any of u done that or even had one?