So where does RJ rank in the GOAT rankings

[jrosales13]

I simply disagree, because I remember who Roy is, the real Roy. Either way, I never post here anymore so I don't know what people were saying about Jones-Green before it happened. Seemed they were thinking Green would lose like a bum, which was silly and what I'd expect from fans who watch more message boards than they do boxing matches. Roy's loss was on paper wasn't unpredictable.

And the Lewis I'm speaking of is Lennox. His resume is pretty good but there are cases to be made in some instances that he ducked a couple people. I don't care to make the case since Lennox was one of the best...no fun to watch really but still the best for a period.

Roy never fought the #1 guy in his prime... His fault or not his fault... But, I refuse to believe in his prime in 4 different weightclasses that the #1 guy ducked him. That was not the case...

And, who did Lennox ducked? Fighters ducked him like Bowe for example... I hope you not talking about the Klitschko's? Cuz he beat Vitaly and then retire what you want him to fight till he was a 100?

[sonnyboyx2]

Roy Jones will be remembered as one of the greatest fighters of all time, in the same league as Robinson, Leonard, Duran & Ali.. Roy`s skills are there for everyone to see on VHS.. for others to claim any fighter of the last 30yrs was better is laughable, watch Jones beat Toney, Hopkins & Ruiz where he completely dominates them, watch his skills vs Pazienza, McCallum & Johnson or his KO power against, Hill, Griffin, Vaca, Thornton or Woods... all the above held world titles yet was not in the same league as Roy Jones Jr.

[jrosales13]

What other ATG fighter never won a real/lineal championship belt?

And, you can't count Charles Burley those were different times. He didn't get a chance cuz of the color of his skin

[sonnyboyx2]

Roy never fought the #1 guy in his prime... His fault or not his fault... But, I refuse to believe in his prime in 4 different weightclasses that the #1 guy ducked him. That was not the case...

And, who did Lennox ducked? Fighters ducked him like Bowe for example... I hope you not talking about the Klitschko's? Cuz he beat Vitaly and then retire what you want him to fight till he was a 100?

Lewis was stripped of all his belt for refusing to fight the No1 contenders.. now you may feel Lewis would have beat those No1 contenders but i definately do not.. so to claim Lewis ducked no-one is in correct, i also feel Lewis `priced himself out`of fighting Bowe, i dont for a second think Bowe ducked him or was afraid of him, i feel it was the other way

[$partacus]

What other ATG fighter never won a real/lineal championship belt?

And, you can't count Charles Burley those were different times. He didn't get a chance cuz of the color of his skin

Sam Langford

[$partacus]

Lewis was stripped of all his belt for refusing to fight the No1 contenders.. now you may feel Lewis would have beat those No1 contenders but i definately do not.. so to claim Lewis ducked no-one is in correct, i also feel Lewis `priced himself out`of fighting Bowe, i dont for a second think Bowe ducked him or was afraid of him, i feel it was the other way

you serious?

[Super_Lightweight]

I say that cuz is true. Fact is Roy never won the lineal championship in not one weight class that he fought in. Never ever won one. Which means he never fought the #1 guy in none of the weightclasses he fought in... And, my question is why? And, if a fighter never fought the #1 guy then what makes him so great?

Do you know how many 'lineal' champions were just 'ok' in the grand scheme of things? Making a case against Roy is going to be tougher than this, my friend. Seriously. There's a reason you're sitting here struggling to make a case against Roy instead of, say...Dariusz Michalczweski. It's because he's great. People aren't debating Dariusz' greatness, because...no one thinks he was one of the GOATs.

Is there inherent value in a lineal championship in this alphabet soup era? Cory Spinks was a lineal champion. Whoopteedo. (Spinks was good, but, was he great just for beating the lineal champ once?)

I am not interested in making a case against Lewis, but yes, he could've fought Klitschko again, or his brother. He also fought an old Tyson. The point is, there are QUESTIONS about some of his decisions, as there may be QUESTIONS about some of Roy's still. And frankly, they're both still all time greats.

[HaglerSteelChin]

Roy Jones will be remembered as one of the greatest fighters of all time, in the same league as Robinson, Leonard, Duran & Ali.. Roy`s skills are there for everyone to see on VHS.. for others to claim any fighter of the last 30yrs was better is laughable, watch Jones beat Toney, Hopkins & Ruiz where he completely dominates them, watch his skills vs Pazienza, McCallum & Johnson or his KO power against, Hill, Griffin, Vaca, Thornton or Woods... all the above held world titles yet was not in the same league as Roy Jones Jr.

Yes and that dosent include even beating these fighters when they were undefeated as Harding, Gonzalez, Thomas, and Kelly. I think you can also argue he really was the only person to beat Hopkins in middleweight from 1992-mid 2005 when Taylor got a split decision win. Hopkins only loss prior to Joner jr was at LHW. If you look at JOnes jr his resume and level of competition is quite good. ALMOST any fighter can be said to have ducked 1 or 2 guys. Even my favorite fighter SRL never fought Aaron Pryor.

[BEEHOP]

Behind the newest ATG DANNY GREEN!

[$partacus]

Do you know how many 'lineal' champions were just 'ok' in the grand scheme of things? Making a case against Roy is going to be tougher than this, my friend. Seriously. There's a reason you're sitting here struggling to make a case against Roy instead of, say...Dariusz Michalczweski. It's because he's great. People aren't debating Dariusz' greatness, because...no one thinks he was one of the GOATs.

Is there inherent value in a lineal championship in this alphabet soup era? Cory Spinks was a lineal champion. Whoopteedo. (Spinks was good, but, was he great just for beating the lineal champ once?)

I am not interested in making a case against Lewis, but yes, he could've fought Klitschko again, or his brother. He also fought an old Tyson. The point is, there are QUESTIONS about some of his decisions, as there may be QUESTIONS about some of Roy's still. And frankly, they're both still all time greats.

Nobody doubts Roys ability, but he didn't make the most of it by fighting the toughest fights. I view Jones like Tyson, both had great ability but the level of the opponents made them look greater than they actually were.