Is it me or was mayweather rusty as hell in his fight with jmm...

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  • MidnightSpecial
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    #31
    The funny thing is that Mayweather was VERY rusty. But Mayweather's RUSTY is better than most peoples prime

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      #32
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      Yes I think he could, remember it was his first fight at the weight, he would probably get more acclimated and look better, also remember he was fighting Floyd.
      Like who Reign? Take Floyd out of the picture you honestly believed JMM look like he could belong at WW? He didn't seem slower than usual do you? You honestly believed he carried his power? Even at LW IMO he didn't have his legs under him. If you look at both of his fights at 135 closely. You could see that was his limit. Anything higher than that he would be in a huge disadvantage... I honestly what top 20 WW JMM could beat. I would even pick Karass and Gomez to beat him at 147. He just doesn't belong there. I don't even think he could beat Hatton at 140. IMO I truly believe 135 is his limit...

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #33
        Mayweather straight right hand wasn't as sharp but that's all I saw. He looked alot better then most expected.

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        • Bhopreign
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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Like who Reign? Take Floyd out of the picture you honestly believed JMM look like he could belong at WW? He didn't seem slower than usual do you? You honestly believed he carried his power? Even at LW IMO he didn't have his legs under him. If you look at both of his fights at 135 closely. You could see that was his limit. Anything higher than that he would be in a huge disadvantage... I honestly what top 20 WW JMM could beat. I would even pick Karass and Gomez to beat him at 147. He just doesn't belong there. I don't even think he could beat Hatton at 140. IMO I truly believe 135 is his limit...
          Like I mentioned, it was his first fight at the weight, he could possibly look better once he's used to the weight. Castillo is listed in the top 20 at welter, he could possibly win that one. Im going by boxrec top 20, there are others he could arguably beat.

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          • jaestix1
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            #35
            Originally posted by USA_Pugilist
            The funny thing is that Mayweather was VERY rusty. But Mayweather's RUSTY is better than most peoples prime
            agreed

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            • jrosales13
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              #36
              Originally posted by jaestix1
              can u please post a list of the top 20 ww's?
              at 147? Not in any order...
              Mosley
              Mayweather
              Cotto
              Margarito
              Clottey
              Quintana
              Berto
              Collazo
              Hlatswayo
              Schechenko(spelling?)
              Cintron
              Pac
              Karass
              Gomez
              Smith
              Williams
              Jones
              Baldomir
              Alvarez
              Brook
              Aydin
              Brook
              Lujan
              Rodrigues
              Agrebu(spelling?)

              That is 25 WWs I named you can pick any 20 of them and say those are the top 20 WWs... I out of those 25 I don't know who I can pick where I could confidently say JMM could beat...

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              • jaestix1
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                #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Like who Reign? Take Floyd out of the picture you honestly believed JMM look like he could belong at WW? He didn't seem slower than usual do you? You honestly believed he carried his power? Even at LW IMO he didn't have his legs under him. If you look at both of his fights at 135 closely. You could see that was his limit. Anything higher than that he would be in a huge disadvantage... I honestly what top 20 WW JMM could beat. I would even pick Karass and Gomez to beat him at 147. He just doesn't belong there. I don't even think he could beat Hatton at 140. IMO I truly believe 135 is his limit...
                you'd pick gomez to beat marquez? what about jennings?

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                • jrosales13
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  Like I mentioned, it was his first fight at the weight, he could possibly look better once he's used to the weight. Castillo is listed in the top 20 at welter, he could possibly win that one. Im going by boxrec top 20, there are others he could arguably beat.
                  Can you give me an example where a fighter a moved in weight look like a shell of himself at that weight. But, then got used to that weight? I am pretty sure that there is one but I can't think of any right now...

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                  • jaestix1
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                    Mayweather straight right hand wasn't as sharp but that's all I saw. He looked alot better then most expected.
                    exactly he was very reluctant to throw the right hand. i used his left hook beautifully though

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jaestix1
                      you'd pick gomez to beat marquez? what about jennings?
                      I haven't really seen Jennings fight... The only fight I have seen of him is against Cotto and I wouldn't put Jennings in the top 20. I would try to find some Jennings fight and then I could give you an answer...

                      And, yes I would pick Alfonso Gomez to beat JMM at 147...

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