mayweather..overrated, a fraud, a ducker, etc

[Left Hook Tua]

Manny hasn't done **** at 140 or 147 either.

Hatton was almost KTFO by juan lazcano..but the ref allowed him to PRETEND to tie his laces.

"Hatton was never any good to begin with"..Freddie Roach

Oscar hadn't fought at WW in a decade.

"Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore at 147"...Freddy Roach

Cotto was fresh off an ass whipping from Margarito and a pitiful showing against Clottey.

"Cotto is damaged goods"...Freddy Roach.

damaged goods cotto > sharmba mitchell , zab judah , carlos baldomir , demarcus corley , arturo gatti , henry brusseles.

[Deja_Vous]

manny fighting 1 time at 135 and not fighting the best in that division is the equivalent of floyd fighting 8-9 times at 140 and 147 and not fighting the next best guy in either division.

lame.

Not in real life...maybe in FannyPacland..but not in the real world.

Freddy Roach admitted Pac's his last 3 opponents suck.

[Tha_Greatest]

This is what surprises me -- I would never have thought someone who claims to be better than Ali, Leonard, etc. needs a tune up fight?

"Who's the greatest? Floyd Mayweather Jr is the greatest fighter of all time. Nobody can beat my style. No disrespect to those great fighters of the past, but I'm better than Leonard, he had losses. I'm greater than Ali. He had losses, too. I'm the greatest of all time. But hold on a second, I just need to practice a bit first."


Nnyahahaha!!

if anyone has the the right to say right now that hes the best of all time, its your boy, manny, hes a cool humble s.o.b cause he doesnt, he got beat up by my boy, morales, what did pac do, he knocked morales out, in order to prove that k.o was no fluke, he k.od morales again , thats a warrior, mayweather is just a overated american fighter who is marketed to americans as the top prize fighter in the world, manny is definitely a top 5 p4p ALL TIME or arguably the best in my book and hes still in his prime, hes still looking for better opponents, this courageos tiny phillipino will not surprise me if he fought my boy margarito with margarito having his gloves loaded or if he fought mosley on steroids



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[Left Hook Tua]

Not in real life...maybe in FannyPacland..but not in the real world.

Freddy Roach admitted Pac's his last 3 opponents suck.

pac beating cotto by itself is better than floyd's entire resume at 140 and 147.

[Deja_Vous]

damaged goods cotto > sharmba mitchell , zab judah , carlos baldomir , demarcus corley , arturo gatti , henry brusseles.

Fighting old mexicans and Floyd's(and margarito's)leftovers is all Fanny Pac is good for.

Freddy called Manny's last 3 opponents damaged goods..not me.

[Grand Champ]

its like winky wright fight plan , only difference is winky was at least trying fight top oposition

Funny how so many things become legit as long as fight the best eh? Winky's safety first style, DLH's big fight losses etc.

[Left Hook Tua]

Fighting old mexicans and Floyd's(and margarito's)leftovers is all Fanny Pac is good for.

Freddy called Manny's last 3 opponents damaged goods..not me.

so losing a fight to someone means their leftovers? LMAO you're one of the lamest floyd stan ever. let stewie or el jesus defend floyd. morons like you make floyd look worst than he is.

using your dumbass logic

genaro hernandez = oscar delahoya's leftovers
jose luis castillo = javier jaregui leftovers
zab judah = carlos baldomir's leftovers
carlos baldomir = 9 people's leftovers

[Allucard]

With mayweather having supposedly ducked competition his whole career, handpicked his entire resume, runs in the ring, isnt exciting and etc.

Can i ask. And this is a serious question.

since the status quo has decided that mayweather is all of the things said above, what does pac have to gain in beating him? With the way floyd gets discussed on here, i would swear hes on the same level as a chavez jr. Seriously, surely if mayweather is all of the things you guys call him on a daily basis, then what does it say about people like shane and pac who want to fight him?

Im making this thread because at some point, careers have to looked at in retrospect, i think what happens is that people who know very little initially sign up to the board, read alot of messages, claim they "loved him at 130" and then decide to tear him a new one on a daily basis.

I see alot of rewriting of history on here alot, but since were basically locked in a two fighter discussion, i want to know seriously from the pac fans, that since mayweather is so overrated, then a pac win would mean very little?

We all know at this point, pac is an outstanding fighter, with a very good quality resume and hes been on a roll post marquez II. But when mayweathers name comes up, like i said, you would swear he was an overrated journeyman.

The last, id say 3 years havent been very kind to mayweather, and for me, it has alot to do with his style of fighting and his additude of course. I think fighters who have an exciting style and a humble additude usually get a pass on who they fight, but mayweather putting his foot in his mouth, and his safety first mentality creates a certain vibe about him that makes it easy to put out nothing but vitriol on here.

Right now this board reminds me alot of political forums i have argued on for years, you have partisian sides holding their ground on positions with everyone just waiting for their turn to talk instead of listening and learning. I feel at this point ive become a middle of the road moderate, i understand certain fighters are not perfect, but the constant trashing of the guy that is supposed to put pac over the top, i dont get it. You all hated it when mayweather trashed his opponents before a fight, then use what he said in promotion as if it was anything more than promoting a fight.

If you yourself stand by the idea that mayweather is an overrated fraud, then how in the *** could he possibly be participating in arguably the greatest fight this sport might see? in order for that to happen, you need two ATG in their prime, SO surely, you can adhere to that? Becuase if not, you arent any better than mayweather himself.

It happens to every perfect record on a black american. Ward is starting to get the same "love" too.
They will say different things trying to justify it but we know what's behind it before opening the topics.

If you prefer to look at it in a more positive way lets say it comes with success.

[Left Hook Tua]

It happens to every perfect record on a black american. Ward is starting to get the same "love" too.
They will say different things trying to justify it but we know what's behind it before opening the topics.

If you prefer to look at it in a more positive way lets say it comes with success.

yes. that's what it is.

racism.

damn too many racists.

[Spray_resistant]

Even though he is a cherrypicker who blatantly ducks fighters and gives all sorts of BS reason as to why he chose to duck.....still the talent and great skill is there so if Pac is to beat him, its a win over maybe the most technically skilled fighter in the world.....who happens to be not much of a risk taker compared to other fighters.