Explain why Pac should Call the shots for this fight or Explain why Floyd should.

[Kalion]

Pac fights everybody.
PBF makes excuses to not fight people.
Pac aims to entertain the fans.
PBF doesn't give a fuck about boxing fans in general or even his own fans in particular.
The last 2 years Pac has won 4 titles in 4 divisions.
The last 2 years PBF has shamelessly cherrypicked and carried a LW at WW.
Pac deserves the bigger split by far.
But realistically, even split or we will miss out on the fight.

Great reasons if the thread was about who do you feel has accomplishsed more or has the better legacy...but since it is not, that has to be considered a fail.

[WhoreUs]

Great reasons if the thread was about who do you feel has accomplishsed more or has the better legacy...but since it is not, that has to be considered a fail.

You cannot read.

These are reasons why Pac deserves more money.
He has done more to earn it than PBF has.
PBF can't command anything in comparison to Pac.
Don't ask questions if you are too biased to deal with truthful answers.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Great reasons if the thread was about who do you feel has accomplishsed more or has the better legacy...but since it is not, that has to be considered a fail.

Is that like you failed to read his last sentence?

[Kalion]

i thought the leverage of this big fight is whose ppv will turn out much better?

Pac-Cotto outsells Floyd-JMM

You thought wrong.

How can you compare what they did with uncommon opponents and try to use that as leverage.

[MaD RoBoT]

You thought wrong.

How can you compare what they did with uncommon opponents and try to use that as leverage.

but if Floyd-JMM sells more im sure you'd think otherwise

ask Horus

[Kalion]

You cannot read.

These are reasons why Pac deserves more money.
He has done more to earn it than PBF has.
PBF can't command anything in comparison to Pac.
Don't ask questions if you are too biased to deal with truthful answers.

And you don't know the difference between a "fact" and "opinion".
If anyone is being biased its you for using opinions instead of factual evidence.90% of the **** you said wont even be mention in negotiations. Go find a Pac legacy thread and waste you time there.

[Kalion]

but if Floyd-JMM sells more im sure you'd think otherwise

ask Horus

The only thing that matters about JMM vs PBF is if Pac sold more in his 2 fights or if PBF sold more in his.

[WhoreUs]

And you don't know the difference between a "fact" and "opinion".
If anyone is being biased its you for using opinions instead of factual evidence.90% of the **** you said wont even be mention in negotiations. Go find a Pac legacy thread and waste you time there.

You asked for opinions on who deserves more.
You asked for explanations of posters' opinions as stated.
I gave you my opinion.
I explained my opinion.
It's immaterial to you because it doesn't fit your agenda.
You are a fool.
Pac deserves more, because he has done more to earn more.
Both are draws.
But in negotiations, Pac's team will laugh at PBF demanding more for these reasons.
You cannot read, or simply choose not to.
Either way, you are a dumbass.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

pac
Delahoya-Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil
Pacquiao-Cotto: 1.25 MIL
Pacquiao–Hatton: 850K
Pacquiao–Marquez 2: 400K
Pacquiao–Barrera: 350K
Morales-Pacquiao 3: 360K
Morales-pacquiao 2: 350k
Morales-pacquiao: 340K
Pacquiao–Diaz: 250K
Pacquiao–Solis: 200K
5,600,000

floyd
Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.4 MIL
Mayweather-Marquez: 1.05 MIL
Mayweather-Hatton: 925K
Mayweather-Judah : 390K
Gatti-Mayweather: 360K
Mayweather-Baldomir: 340K
5,465,000


I dont know the actual live gate numbers so if anyone does feel free to post them. But as far as im concerned the indicatin of who the bigger draw can be analying the PPV from each fight and paying special attention to the common opponents. After doing that I think Floyd deserves to call the shots in this one.

Please take in consideration the key points.
-Between common opponents, Floyd has outsold Pac by nearly 2m buys.
-Floyd averages nearly 1/2 a million more buys per a PPV.
-Im not sure how much PPV revenue Pac avg but PBF has the highest of any fighter with more than 5 fights at just over 59mil per fight.

Im not saying Pac is not a huge star, but to say he more deserving than Floyd of the lions share is absurd in my opinion. He does have a few tools to bargain with, such as his WBO diamond Belt as well as the fact that he is the P4P #1 and im not sure but he may average more cash per a live gate than Floyd. But the bulk of this money comes from the PPVs and there's a clearly large advantage for Floyd in category.

jesus christ monkey balls kalion,


your boxing intuition & overall mental comprehension is as mediocre as your houston texans.

Let me ask you a question,

Is being the 1# p4p best fighter in the sport, 1# p4p most exciting fighter in the sport, being a first ballot hall of famer, certified living legend, having the better resume, having a official welterweight belt & junior welterweight belt, along with having a great fan base & a legitimate ticket seller compared to AFraid Mayweather jr. worth at least 50%?


Afraid Jr. fought oscar may 2007. Its gonna be 2010.


Afraid Jr. was the biggest star in boxing, WAS.

NOW is Pacquiao. Evidence: Pac vs Cotto 1.25 mill, Afraid Jr. vs Marquez 1mil.


Stop using the marquez & hatton numbers as a gauge. That was before Pac became a mainstream star. Hell that even helps Pac's cause.

before Pac became a cross over mainstream american star he was averaging 350k w/ morales & he & marqeuz set the record for the lower weights with 400k plus. That is between 2 non english speaking non american fighters who dont live in america fighting in america.

Pretty impressive.


How much did Afraid Mayweather Jr. pull before oscar? vs Gatti a american boxing action fighter? vs Judah another american?


The fact that Pac vs Hatton was only 100k give or take behind Floyd v hatton during a much worser economic time is a testament to the drawing power of the pacquiao. Afraid mayweather jr. already beat hatton, & hatton almost got KO'D by lazcano then had a boring uneventful win vs paulie yet they 2 NON AMERICANS pull 800k plus?


Afraid mayweather jr. was the biggest star & draw of the sport. Pacquiao is NOW the biggest star & draw of the sport. Stop living in the past & live in the present.

[asghar]

50/50 if not agreed than Floyd should fight Sugar Shane if he beat Berto which he can.