Let's dispell the "Myth" that Pacquiao was outboxed by a shot Erik Morales

[DLT]

Raheem by no means is average(his problem was he didn't like to get hit), yes, his pro-career did not turn out so well. But, Raheem's style I always knew would give Erika problems, shot or not!!

I was one of the few who picked Raheem, not based on whether Erika was shot or not! I just felt Raheem's speed and movement was gonna give Erika hell, like it always has.

yeah he's definatly better than that. Im a Raheem fan so I dont want to diss him. I like his skills but the point is if he shuts EM out one fight then you cant give Pac all this extra credit for beating him the next fight and you definatly cant allow a 3rd fight, and if he wins the 3rd fight then you definatly cant give him mad credit again. I mean how much more proof do you need? Why didnt you have a 4th and 5th fight to see if EM can even win a single round

[Zarco]

i dont know about that. he had been in 3 wars with barrera. and he did loose to zahir raheem right after wards. imo, jmm layed the blue print for morales right before he beat pac.

[Khalid X]

morales wasn't shot nor was he past his prime, the problem is that morales' most effective weight classes were 126 lbs and lower.

I agree with this statement.

[DLT]

All I know is that most people thought EM was a big fighter for those weights. One of the biggest. Pac was just an ordinary size guy at that time. Then the rematch comes and out the blue Pac looks like Hulk Hogan and made EM look like a little boy in the ring physicaly. Thats why I always say that I truly dont beleive that Pac used steroids but if he did then it started back then because his body changed crazy quick and is getting better by the day ever since. He probably was like 135-137 in the ring in there 1st fight and was 147 in the rematch and 3rd fight. You never see that happened

[MaD RoBoT]

Come on man, you dont have to get KO to get destroyed. He lost every single round. Every one of them. Actually, you can knock Floyd for the WW stuff if you want but you cant knock him at 140. He asked to fight Hatton in his very 1st fight. Its documented but they said NO. He wanted Cotto but Arum said he was too green. Everyone knows that. Thats not a big deal to me though because he probably was. The Tszyu fight was business. Floyd was HBO and Tszyu was Showtime. I keep telling everyone that it was setup for them to fight if Tszyu beat Hatton because that was the last fight of Tszyu's contract with Showtime and Showtime had just announced that they werent signing anymore fighters to deals and would only choose on a fight by fight basis instead of contracts. That opened the door for Tszyu-Floyd to happened. Dont forget that Tszyu was like hurt the whole time. He finally came back to have the Mitchell fight that he was supposed to and then the 2 big Showtime stars in him & Hatton had to fight. After that he was supposed to fight Floyd. He beat Hatton and Floyd beat Gatti. Perfect setup but he lost

so basically you're saying that its ok for Floyd to have fights not made due to business deals?

but bitter against Pac doing the same?

[Pullcounter]

All I know is that most people thought EM was a big fighter for those weights. One of the biggest. Pac was just an ordinary size guy at that time. Then the rematch comes and out the blue Pac looks like Hulk Hogan and made EM look like a little boy in the ring physicaly. Thats why I always say that I truly dont beleive that Pac used steroids but if he did then it started back then because his body changed crazy quick and is getting better by the day ever since. He probably was like 135-137 in the ring in there 1st fight and was 147 in the rematch and 3rd fight. You never see that happened

lols... the figth w/ morales at 130 lbs was pac's first fight at 130 lbs and morales' 2nd or 3rd fight at 130 lbs.

once pac got acclimated to the weight he could put more muscle on. that's all there is to it

[NYU Alum.]

i dont know about that. he had been in 3 wars with barrera. and he did loose to zahir raheem right after wards. imo, jmm layed the blue print for morales right before he beat pac.

How about give credit to the cut that PAC suffered in the first fight. For me, that was the game-changer in the fight(it's like getting that key-turnover in a tightly contested football game).

[-Antonio-]

Morales was clearly slowed down. Physically he was still capable of taking a lot of punishment and fighting back. In the second and third fights I think he was weight drained and lost some durability.

I say that fight was really close anyway. I wouldn't argue with a draw. Pac fought back in every exchange, and Morales gave away the 12th.

[Caxcan]

Yeah morales was mid prime. raheem and diaz are atgs for beating him.

[andrew14]

old news.

Erik is one of the best in mexican boxing.

and a loss to Rahim and David diaz is not the same loss he got from manny.

He got out runned by Rahim and cant out punched a 135 pounder diaz.

in 130 he got owned in 2nd match and 3rd match is his last game by manny.