Let's dispell the "Myth" that Pacquiao was outboxed by a shot Erik Morales

[Nightelf]

the only true challenge that pacquiao has fought since the first morales fight is Marquez..and we all saw that happened to pacquiao there.. HONESTLY pacquiao hasnt fought good prime opposition...or non drained ones..and manny was SUPPOSED TO WIN the first fight with erik and even in their rematch manny was losing in all the score cards up until he 6th, WITH mannys choice of gloves against a super skinny dehydrated version of erik..

in the first fight, **** the judges..u take out the 5 and 12 round which morales GAVE to manny..pacquiao seriously only won just a couple rounds in the entire fight...watch the fight and see how GREAT Morales was clearly out boxing paquiao round after round..it wasnt a so called war like many think..

Look at how good Erik was doing in the rematch before before he was running on fumes after the 6th round..

Manny DID NOT get outboxed by a shot morales...he got clearly outboxed by a PAST PRIME Morales who had some left in the tank...simple as that..

[El Jesus]

he wasnt shot completely just yet, but he was definately past it. in my opinion that was the last great fight he was ever going to have. erik was definately on the downstroke though, he had been in countless wars before that pac fight and i seriously didint think hed even win.

[DLT]

This thread is garbage. No one says EM was shot. Everyone says he was shot in the rematch. The whole point is that when both were right, EM clearly outboxed him and won. Pac then had a rematch "after" EM had just been shutout by Raheem. Not beaten but shutout. Thats when people said EM was done or shot. Then Pac rematches him and suddenly comes into the ring at 147 pounds and stops him. Everyone went crazy. Why? He just got shutout by an average guy like Raheem. The normal EM would kill Raheem. Not only that but the public actually accepted a 3rd fight after EM had just been shutout by the average Raheem & shutout and stopped by Pac. In the 3rd fight what happeneds? He's shutout and KO again and everyone goes crazy again. That stuff is fake man. Floyd would get ripped for stuff like that. You cant deny that EM got destroyed by Raheem. Once that happends then its over yet people not only let Pac have a rematch but a 3rd fight also? Come on now.

To show you how bad Diaz sucks, that same EM went to LW and almost beat Diaz. Alot of people thought he won. So when Pac moves up, who does he pick to fight? Not Nate, not Guzman, not Casamayor, but Diaz. You already know whats going to happened if he cant even beat that dead version of Morales. Then he fights the admittedly by Roach, dead Oscar who Floyd already just beat. Then he faces the admittedly by Roach, done Hatton who Floyd just beat and was almost KO by Lazcano after that. Then he faces the again admittedly by Roach, shot Cotto who was just slaughtered by Margarito and hasnt looked the same sense. You guys cant see through it but its there in your face

[illmatickid]

rakim > nas

Thats like sayin

Dr.J > Michael Jordan

[bbos]

pac lost that first fight due to the severe gash from the headbutt in the 3rd round i recall, that gash was just devastating, I couldn't even bare to look, it made cotto's cut with clotty look like a scratch.

[circleinsidebox]

Thats like sayin

Dr.J > Michael Jordan

bad analogy
porque sin DR.J
there would be no MJ

[S A M U R A I]

This thread is garbage. No one says EM was shot. Everyone says he was shot in the rematch. The whole point is that when both were right, EM clearly outboxed him and won. Pac then had a rematch "after" EM had just been shutout by Raheem. Not beaten but shutout. Thats when people said EM was done or shot. Then Pac rematches him and suddenly comes into the ring at 147 pounds and stops him. Everyone went crazy. Why? He just got shutout by an average guy like Raheem. The normal EM would kill Raheem. Not only that but the public actually accepted a 3rd fight after EM had just been shutout by the average Raheem & shutout and stopped by Pac. In the 3rd fight what happeneds? He's shutout and KO again and everyone goes crazy again. That stuff is fake man. Floyd would get ripped for stuff like that. You cant deny that EM got destroyed by Raheem. Once that happends then its over yet people not only let Pac have a rematch but a 3rd fight also? Come on now.

To show you how bad Diaz sucks, that same EM went to LW and almost beat Diaz. Alot of people thought he won. So when Pac moves up, who does he pick to fight? Not Nate, not Guzman, not Casamayor, but Diaz. You already know whats going to happened if he cant even beat that dead version of Morales. Then he fights the admittedly by Roach, dead Oscar who Floyd already just beat. Then he faces the admittedly by Roach, done Hatton who Floyd just beat and was almost KO by Lazcano after that. Then he faces the again admittedly by Roach, shot Cotto who was just slaughtered by Margarito and hasnt looked the same sense. You guys cant see through it but its there in your face

First of all, wasn't the rematch arranged before the Raheem fight, including the weight it would be held at? I swear I read it was. Yet some people claim Manny picked on a shot Morales. Well, if Morales magically became shot after the first Pacquiao fight, isn't it safe to say it's very possible that the first fight took something out of him? Maybe Morales was shot because of Pacquiao? Not impossible.

Oh, and I guess Pacquiao was also damaged goods, since he lost twice by brutal KO. He was destroyed by average guys like Singsurat and Torrecampo.



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[Benny Leonard]

NO No no....Morales was past his prime when he beat Pac, but not shot.

It was like his last big push for doing something great.

For age: It's not about the number but the actual age of the fighter based on wear and tear.

Example: What age did Freddie Roach go down hill and then retire?

[MaD RoBoT]

This thread is garbage. No one says EM was shot. Everyone says he was shot in the rematch. The whole point is that when both were right, EM clearly outboxed him and won. Pac then had a rematch "after" EM had just been shutout by Raheem. Not beaten but shutout. Thats when people said EM was done or shot. Then Pac rematches him and suddenly comes into the ring at 147 pounds and stops him. Everyone went crazy. Why? He just got shutout by an average guy like Raheem. The normal EM would kill Raheem. Not only that but the public actually accepted a 3rd fight after EM had just been shutout by the average Raheem & shutout and stopped by Pac. In the 3rd fight what happeneds? He's shutout and KO again and everyone goes crazy again. That stuff is fake man. Floyd would get ripped for stuff like that. You cant deny that EM got destroyed by Raheem. Once that happends then its over yet people not only let Pac have a rematch but a 3rd fight also? Come on now.

To show you how bad Diaz sucks, that same EM went to LW and almost beat Diaz. Alot of people thought he won. So when Pac moves up, who does he pick to fight? Not Nate, not Guzman, not Casamayor, but Diaz. You already know whats going to happened if he cant even beat that dead version of Morales. Then he fights the admittedly by Roach, dead Oscar who Floyd already just beat. Then he faces the admittedly by Roach, done Hatton who Floyd just beat and was almost KO by Lazcano after that. Then he faces the again admittedly by Roach, shot Cotto who was just slaughtered by Margarito and hasnt looked the same sense. You guys cant see through it but its there in your face

So Morales got destroyed by Raheem, by what devastating UD?

so when Floyd come up to 140, did he fought Tszyu? Cotto? no he fought the legendary Chop Corley & the immortal Henry Bruseles

[NYU Alum.]

This thread is garbage. No one says EM was shot. Everyone says he was shot in the rematch. The whole point is that when both were right, EM clearly outboxed him and won. Pac then had a rematch "after" EM had just been shutout by Raheem. Not beaten but shutout. Thats when people said EM was done or shot. Then Pac rematches him and suddenly comes into the ring at 147 pounds and stops him. Everyone went crazy. Why? He just got shutout by an average guy like Raheem. The normal EM would kill Raheem. Not only that but the public actually accepted a 3rd fight after EM had just been shutout by the average Raheem & shutout and stopped by Pac. In the 3rd fight what happeneds? He's shutout and KO again and everyone goes crazy again. That stuff is fake man. Floyd would get ripped for stuff like that. You cant deny that EM got destroyed by Raheem. Once that happends then its over yet people not only let Pac have a rematch but a 3rd fight also? Come on now.

To show you how bad Diaz sucks, that same EM went to LW and almost beat Diaz. Alot of people thought he won. So when Pac moves up, who does he pick to fight? Not Nate, not Guzman, not Casamayor, but Diaz. You already know whats going to happened if he cant even beat that dead version of Morales. Then he fights the admittedly by Roach, dead Oscar who Floyd already just beat. Then he faces the admittedly by Roach, done Hatton who Floyd just beat and was almost KO by Lazcano after that. Then he faces the again admittedly by Roach, shot Cotto who was just slaughtered by Margarito and hasnt looked the same sense. You guys cant see through it but its there in your face

Raheem by no means is average(his problem was he didn't like to get hit), yes, his pro-career did not turn out so well. But, Raheem's style I always knew would give Erika problems, shot or not!!

I was one of the few who picked Raheem, not based on whether Erika was shot or not! I just felt Raheem's speed and movement was gonna give Erika hell, like it always has.