Better jab: Cotto or Mayweather???

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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #21
    Originally posted by Syf
    A jab normally isn't about doing damage. Its about disrupting momentum and rhythm of your opponent..and setting up the bigger shots.
    True. which was why i couldnt decide who would have a more effective jab against Pacquiao.

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      #22
      Cotto>>>>>Malignaggi>>>>>>Mayweather

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      • Albo Da Kid
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        #23
        Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
        Cotto's jab was his most effective punch against Pacquiao. It snapped Pac's head back on several occassions and stopped him dead in his tracks when he advanced.
        Nah man Cotto probably hit Manny a total of 5 good jabs which snapped his head back and that was because Manny walked into them when he was going for the kill and trying to finish Cotto. Basically those were counter-punching jabs which caught manny coming in, and it would have snapped anyone's head back.

        I doubt Manny would walk into Mayweather's jabs like that, unless he gets really desperate. In that case he will suffer head snaps again...but I very much doubt Many would fight Mayweather like that. He is probably going to break him down first and then go for the kill. Since Mayweather doesn't have any dangerous power behind his jabs, he can hit Manny as many times as he want while Manny's coming in for the killshot

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        • illmatickid
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          #24
          as far as which jab would be more effective on manny
          see floyd's jab is fast accurate but i doubt its strong enough to throw pacquiao off or even disrupt him THAT MUCH...compared to a strong jab from cotto that actually tilted pacquiao's head backwards WHEN he did land it that is

          soo... hmm but i guess i would still give the edge to floyd
          because i firmly believe in skills > power

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          • ThePunchingBag
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            #25
            Originally posted by illmatickid
            as far as which jab would be more effective on manny
            see floyd's jab is fast accurate but i doubt its strong enough to throw pacquiao off or even disrupt him THAT MUCH...compared to a strong jab from cotto that actually tilted pacquiao's head backwards WHEN he did land it that is

            soo... hmm but i guess i would still give the edge to floyd
            because i firmly believe in skills > power
            Yeah, I agree. Manny can walk through Floyd's jab. Floyd's money punch will be the straight right. The jab will be inconsequential.

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            • dibzvincent143
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              #26
              cottos jab is stronger.and has KD power on it(but pac walk thru it)lol
              mayweathers jab is more accurate and fast(but not as fast and as strong as manny's)
              mayweather also has better jab angles since his faster and accurate..
              mayweather also has the longer reach jabs.thats why he jabs to body often.to keep distance to the opponent.

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              • dibzvincent143
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                #27
                A jab normally isn't about doing damage. Its about disrupting momentum and rhythm of your opponent..and setting up the bigger shots.
                yeah.but pac's jab has dual purpose.
                1.it disrupts momentum and rhythm, setting bigger shots.
                2. If its a clean shot, you're already be looking at the ceiling.

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                • MakeDamnSure
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                  #28
                  Cottos jab is strong that it could knock down some fighters.

                  Floyd's jab is fast but Pac will laugh it off. Pac's footwork and right hand counter would annihilate Floyd

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #29
                    pacquiao was going over cotto's jab with a hook.

                    i doubt he'd be as successful doing that over mayweather's jab.


                    cotto made a mistake sticking with the jab all night when he was getting countered throwing it.

                    he'd have been better off throwing the right as a type of jab and saving that left hook of his for when pacquiao counters.

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                    • Beater_of_ass
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Albo Da Kid
                      Nah man Cotto probably hit Manny a total of 5 good jabs which snapped his head back and that was because Manny walked into them when he was going for the kill and trying to finish Cotto. Basically those were counter-punching jabs which caught manny coming in, and it would have snapped anyone's head back.

                      I doubt Manny would walk into Mayweather's jabs like that, unless he gets really desperate. In that case he will suffer head snaps again...but I very much doubt Many would fight Mayweather like that. He is probably going to break him down first and then go for the kill. Since Mayweather doesn't have any dangerous power behind his jabs, he can hit Manny as many times as he want while Manny's coming in for the killshot
                      You're comparing Cotto's jab to the Manny fight when Mayweather hasn't even fought him. Until then I don't think its fair to just throw the jab out the window because Manny didn't caught with it "that much." Though... he did get a caught more than what you are saying, and then you say "Manny was coming in." Well isn't that what the jab is supposed to do? Keep your opponent from blazing in so you throw a jab to snap his head back. I mean your excuse for having a "bad jab" is essentially taking the entire point of the punch out of the equation.

                      That being said its really just a tough call to me. Cotto's jab worked great against Judah and Mosley, and for the first 4 or 5 rounds of the Manny fight was working great against Manny. But as stated its a different type of jab than Mayweather, Cotto uses it more to offset his opponents timing where Floyd seems to use it to set up other punches. Yes, they are both the same punch but they are used different ways, perhaps its because they are opposite types of fighters, offensive vs defensive. Possibly what makes it so difficult to compare is they haven't fought many common fighters, Judah is the only one that comes to mind and Cotto's jab worked far better in that one that Mayweathers. I'll just use that as my basis if I HAD to make a call, as its really the closest we can compare how it worked on the same opponent.

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