Marquez: My First Choice is Pacquiao, Then Hatton"

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  • JCairo
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    #61
    Originally posted by SugarRayRealist
    Burner, Marquez is a gladiator who has fought Pac and on even terms twice. Even better than even terms if you are to discount the knockdowns. You need to shut the **** up about Marquez. What are doing anyway sucking Pac's ****? He is a fighter just any other fighter and has the right to get his name called out. Plus he is a ***** for fighting weight-drained boxers and always trying to get an advantage. I want to know of any good to great boxer that asked for so many dam advantages!!

    It's just pathetic and disrespectful of the opponents. I can see if it was a pscyhological advantage; but an advantage that takes away the opponent's strength while leaving them vulnerable is not an honorable thing for an elite champion to be respected for. All the other great boxers never asked nor do they get an advantage that would leave an opponent almost defenseless and dried out!!!! Nuff said about Manny and how I feel about him. STEROIDS= advantage. WEIGHT-DRAINED OPPONENTS= advantage. Too many su****ious things going on around this short, pigtail looking guy for me to respect him... Fight Mayweather, Mosley or whoever at the weight limit without special concessions and beat them; then I will be impressed..

    Realist, first of all you don't discount knockdowns. That's like saying the guy was doing great until he got knocked out. Those points are earned. Secondly, while I agree I'm getting a little tired of the catch weights as well, the fighters agreed to them. If Marquez was such a warrior, why did he want the weight at 144 and not 147? Of course I realize Mayweather said F* it and came in 2 lbs heavier anyway. Cotto was 146 for the Clottey fight, I don't think 145 drained him. I'll concede that DLH was completely drained for the fight, but that was really the only fight where the weight was an issue. He fought Hatton at 140, his preferred weight. Moralez was drained for their last fight, but hey, that's the weight they had fought at before, why wouldn't they choose that weight? I don't Pacman had any huge advantages in his fights. Hand picked opponents? That's a disccussion, but advatages? Hardly. You don't know that Pacman is on steroids and you have no proof, I think you're drinking the same juice as that crackhead Mayweather Sr.

    As for the forum topic, JMM just wants another paycheck, can't hate on the man for that. But at 140+, he's too slow and too weak to do any real damage to Pacman. I say take the fight with Hatton, it's a winnable fight and a decent payday at that.

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    • joey4pacman
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      #62
      Marquez 1st & 2nd Options

      Marquez should not insult himself as if he can demand his options. He thought he won the 1st 2 bouts with Manny but then again it is just his thoughts. Think again because if given the chance Marquez might think he won again in dreamland, if he knows what it meant ....

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      • zeidrich
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        #63
        hatton marquez is 50/50

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        • periks19
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          #64
          Originally posted by TEXSTRO
          I dont understand the whole weight drained issue...Most peopl use it when a fighter loses and was out of shape...Do you really think Roach would let his prized pupil go in the ring being nothing less than a 100%. Im tired of hearing oh he fought Marquez but he was weight drained thats why the fights were so close..Get out of here with that nonsense already..Do you really think JMM will get knocked out. If pac couldnt do it before he wont do it now. If Mayweather couldnt do it. He has flash knockdowns. thats his downfall but thats also his switch to turn it on. Your letting this cotto win really cloud your mind. Different styles..Different outcomes..Cotto is not as smart as him in the ring..Pac does get wreckless in the ring thats the reason JMM makes the fight so close hell even beats him..PAC knows in the back of his mind JMM has his ticket roach does too and so does every other PAC fan...That is the reason Roach wants every advantage if they were to fight again. He wants all the fights to be in the MANNY DIVISION...Seriously think about whos the only fighter to give Manny fits?
          another sign of that is that have you ever wonder why roach or pac never even issued a statement that they wanted to fight JMM again?? but after the pbf fight they saw he didn't carried his weight good so thats when they started saying to the press that they would consider a fight with JMM. sounds like a ***** move to me after JMM called him out right away after the rematch he even went to the philipines and manny didn't say **** now all of a sudden they want a fight at 145. lol what great champion manny is and what great trainer roach is

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          • periks19
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            #65
            Originally posted by joey4pacman
            Marquez should not insult himself as if he can demand his options. He thought he won the 1st 2 bouts with Manny but then again it is just his thoughts. Think again because if given the chance Marquez might think he won again in dreamland, if he knows what it meant ....
            judging by your screenname your ****** comment doesn't surprise me. Just to clarify to you not just JMM though he won the second fight, it was the majority of the boxing experts, and non biased boxing fans. Of cource the only people that taught pac won after getting his ass kicked and a ****ed up face with a really swollen eye was all you pac nuthuggers or the biased philipino fans. Other than that everybody else had JMM wining the second fight I mean couldn't you see all the leather pac was eating and how JMM schooled him.

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            • Dknight
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              #66
              Not a good idea at welterweight. Marquez at lightweight is a different story, though. If the fight was to be made at 130-135lbs then I think Manny would lose (yet again) to Marquez.

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              • HattonFaithful
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                #67
                Originally posted by two_guns
                thats cause marquez didn't lose.check out how manny boxing reporters and commentators gave the fight to marquez,**** even ronnie pacquiaos number 1 fan gave it to marquez..lolhttp://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...=Fight:1239916
                yes i know and thats why i said it was a controversial loss for marquez but on the books its still marked as a L

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                • nujabes77
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                  • Calibre .223
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JCairo
                    Realist, first of all you don't discount knockdowns. That's like saying the guy was doing great until he got knocked out. Those points are earned. Secondly, while I agree I'm getting a little tired of the catch weights as well, the fighters agreed to them. If Marquez was such a warrior, why did he want the weight at 144 and not 147? Of course I realize Mayweather said F* it and came in 2 lbs heavier anyway. Cotto was 146 for the Clottey fight, I don't think 145 drained him. I'll concede that DLH was completely drained for the fight, but that was really the only fight where the weight was an issue. He fought Hatton at 140, his preferred weight. Moralez was drained for their last fight, but hey, that's the weight they had fought at before, why wouldn't they choose that weight? I don't Pacman had any huge advantages in his fights. Hand picked opponents? That's a disccussion, but advatages? Hardly. You don't know that Pacman is on steroids and you have no proof, I think you're drinking the same juice as that crackhead Mayweather Sr.

                    As for the forum topic, JMM just wants another paycheck, can't hate on the man for that. But at 140+, he's too slow and too weak to do any real damage to Pacman. I say take the fight with Hatton, it's a winnable fight and a decent payday at that.

                    Hahahaahahahahaahahahhahahaahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    "If Marquez was such a warrior..."

                    I'm sorry but I couldn't continue reading after that statement. Pick up a dictionary and look up the word "warrior" and then come back and see us. What a way to establish credibility on your first post, homie.

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                    • boxasmash
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                      #70
                      I wanna see it just to end all the bs of comparing Marquez and Mayweather because of that fight at 130.

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