Pacquiao-Marquez 3: Roach Would Want it at 145

[znarfv_y2k8]

Manny has already cleaned the best of the featherweights...

Marquez was the last guy to hurt Manny and possibly beat him (could have gone his favor since the fight was so close) Marquez is his "rival" so might as well try to get rid of him.

Rivalry at the featherweights has already finished, Manny has already cleaned the best of the featherweights...He fought w/ the best of the featherweights Barrera2x, Morales3x & Marquez2x (6wins-1loss-1 draw record) There's no more argument w/ that even how close the fights were, win or lose or draw...Manny who battles Marquez w/ a 2 close fights before is a different Manny today...A Manny today will surely knock Marquez out to retirement at 145 or even at 140 of w/c Floyd can't do even fighting at his best weight & cheated...

Manny is already a different fighter who evolves as a strong & smart fighter, has moved forward in a different level and defeated bigger & stronger oppositions explosively, rewrites history that's already a different story...

[PinoyZoi]

I think Pacquiao and Roach should just let JMM go, they should continue fighting at WW not go down just for revenge. If Tim Bradley can go on HBO, Pacquiao should fight him so there will be no more "He didnt fight black American fighters" lol

[znarfv_y2k8]

It was obvious Marquez can not compete at WW, but I know he will gladly accept it because he is not a ***** like Roach and (maybe) Manny (very ****** on his part), you Pac fans are starting to sound like Floyd fans crying because people say the truth and sometimes it hurts, I know Manny is the man right now, but he already has youth, speed and power over Marquez, his skill alone is what allowed him to compete with Manny, now Manny wants to add weight to his advantage, sounds like a Floyd move (in your terms ***** move), why does Roach want to make it an easier fight for Manny, because both fights were extremely close and Manny could have lost both, besides Manny himself said he will fight ANYONE from 140-147...so why not make it at 140? You need to stop crying about being told the truth.

You see at least I'm glad you accepted the fact that Marquez cannot compete w/ the welters & Manny as the man right now...As what I've said before Manny has evolved in a different level fast, stronger & smarter...For Manny no need to look backward cause he has only few fights left to consider one or two more then retire...For Marquez reality will set him free...

[LilGizmo562]

Rivalry at the featherweights has already finished, Manny has already cleaned the best of the featherweights...He fought w/ the best of the featherweights Barrera2x, Morales3x & Marquez2x (6wins-1loss-1 draw record) There's no more argument w/ that even how close the fights were, win or lose or draw...Manny who battles Marquez w/ a 2 close fights before is a different Manny today...A Manny today will surely knock Marquez out to retirement at 145 or even at 140 of w/c Floyd can't do even fighting at his best weight & cheated...

Manny is already a different fighter who evolves as a strong & smart fighter, has moved forward in a different level and defeated bigger & stronger oppositions explosively, rewrites history that's already a different story...

You pretty much repeated what I said earlier, at 145, Marquez gets put to sleep, at 140, he loses but it will be more competitive.

[LilGizmo562]

You see at least I'm glad you accepted the fact that Marquez cannot compete w/ the welters & Manny as the man right now...As what I've said before Manny has evolved in a different level fast, stronger & smarter...For Manny no need to look backward cause he has only few fights left to consider one or two more then retire...For Marquez reality will set him free...

I never denied, Manny growing as a fighter, but because of Marquez's style, Manny will struggle no matter what (struggle as in if he does beat Marquez it won't be by 1-3 round KO....it will occur half way) smarter fighter, highly doubtful, stronger and faster most definitely, but remember Roach and Arum are teasing Marquez by mentioning his name, Marquez "moved on" remember and decided to fight Floyd...but like I said they mention Marquez as a possible opponent and BAM he is willing to fight him again.

[znarfv_y2k8]

You pretty much repeated what I said earlier, at 145, Marquez gets put to sleep, at 140, he loses but it will be more competitive.

Ok maybe that's the end of the story....

:blow:I truly respect Marquez as a great champion at lightweight & featherweight but he can't bring his power into the welters but his skills still there...A Marquez vs Floyd at welter in w/c Floyd cheated w/ the weight showed that Marquez has that heart & skills but his power has little effect...If Marquez vs Floyd will be at lightweight, I think he will defeat Floyd clearly by decision or by ko even at Floyd's best lightweight days...That's why Marquez must have that full credit against all odds fighting Floyd the Cheater not the other way around...

[psidiablo]

if manny will fight the winner of mosley berto fight, I hope there is no catch weight... marquez is booring at 145 better be at 140.

[psidiablo]

Manny is no longer an easy target to counter punch...

[LilGizmo562]

Ok maybe that's the end of the story....

:blow:I truly respect Marquez as a great champion at lightweight & featherweight but he can't bring his power into the welters but his skills still there...A Marquez vs Floyd at welter in w/c Floyd cheated w/ the weight showed that Marquez has that heart & skills but his power has little effect...If Marquez vs Floyd will be at lightweight, I think he will defeat Floyd clearly by decision or by ko even at Floyd's best lightweight days...That's why Marquez must have that full credit against all odds fighting Floyd the Cheater not the other way around...

...Fair enough

[StarRican]

BS!

I'm tired to hear biased dudes.

You are complaining about advantages Manny get,but you forgot advantages that Manny gave.

Oscar had to move down to 147.
But take in count Manny himself had to fatten from 134 to 147 SO 13 ****IN pounds.

Cotto weighed 146 against Clottey,so how Cotto was drained at 145????
He only didn't let Cotto to make 147 because Cotto would only weigh 157,158 the fight night and not 160 like against Urkal.

Marquez and Manny both fought their last fight at 145,so how it's a ***** move to ask that weight.
Mayweather fought Marquez at 146,giv me a break.Here is the ***** move.

So what if Manny gave up some advantages, those advanteges wouldn't have been usefule againtst him because what he made his opponents go through with their weight. 2 pounds is a difference, take it from me and I box...1st of all it is a lot harder going down in weight rather than going up in weight..2nd..De la Hoya was shot 3 fights before the Pacquia fight. Cmon Mr. 2lbs himself Steve Forbes gave De La Hoya a tough time.

And no, Cotto came in at 147 not 146 against Clottey. And Clottey came in at 147, but balloned to like 160 on fight night..thats how boxing is! So if Manny didn't want that...then he should've have fought Cotto or De La Hoya...he should've stayed at 140 for all we care. If you want to be considered a champion fight people at their own weight and not weight restrictions during fight night.