"Boxing is a business" crowd, get in here.

[The Gambler1981]

Boxing is a business, money is why things happean or does not happean and it has always been that way. Everybody wants the best deal possible in negotiations, ain't no real prizefighter that wants to take the small piece of the pie for the "good of the sport"

When the mob ran the sport it was not about the fighters it was about the money. When the pseudo-gangster promoters ran the show, it was about business and fleecing the fighters.

All professional sports are a bussiness, by definition fighting is their profession (or wahtever sport you want to talk about). There ain't no real loyalty in pro sports, as soon as you are done you get cast aside like an old newspaper. There is a certain harsh reality to all pro sports, now I can understand people not feeling sorry for these guys because they do get paid very well, and should plan ahead but things can come crashing down with one injury or one bad beating can end it all. I like when good fights get made, but I like understanding the business side of things so I know what to expect to occur.

I don't even understand the point of this thread. I will tell you though every fighter should treat this sport like a business and anyone who does not will just find out the hard way the reality of the situation, this game is way to cruel to be playing around.

[PAKYO]

First of all if i bring up race its for a good reason, when i brought it up earlier it was to illustrate my nonsensical point which was just as asnine as youre assertion that floyd is "****** entertainment".

Second of all, i dont think you have any idea about my posting habits, or my usage of race.

3rd of all, why do you SPECIFICLY associate what floyd is doing as "****** entertainment". Please, id love to know why. Because im sure you dont say roach's trash talking is "****** entertainment". Im sure you wouldnt equate pauli malignaggis antics as "****** entertainment". So please, stop deflecting and explain what that meant.

See, you already nailed it but you seem to want to put something in my mouth that isn't there.

1. I wasn't paying for Roach doing ****** entertainment.
2. I wasn't paying for pauli's antics either.
3. I paid to watch floyd-jmm expecting to be entertained with all that hype they generated only to come out short, totally short i felt someone pissed in my mouth and robbed me in broad daylight.

Now, does that answer you?

[El Jesus]

See, you already nailed it but you seem to want to put something in my mouth that isn't there.

1. I wasn't paying for Roach doing ****** entertainment.
2. I wasn't paying for pauli's antics either.
3. I paid to watch floyd-jmm expecting to be entertained with all that hype they generated only to come out short, totally short i felt someone pissed in my mouth and robbed me in broad daylight.

Now, does that answer you?

So you are saying floyd provided ****** entertainment on the night of JMM/Mayweather? That makes absolutely no sense. When i mentioned roach and malignaggi i pointed out that you didint use the term "******" when talking about their less than sportsman antics outside the ring.

Since you are clarifying you are talking about what happens in the ring, what "******" entertainment did floyd engage in?

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't even understand the point of this thread. I will tell you though every fighter should treat this sport like a business and anyone who does not will just find out the hard way the reality of the situation, this game is way to cruel to be playing around.

The point is simple,

if you agree that boxing is a business,


you should have no problem with Freddie trying to get his fighter more money in any way possible.

[Benny Leonard]

Its not a big deal.

Just pointing out that its a ***** move is all.

"you can't post in my threads, but I'll be in yours".

It's a ***** Move...no question...but don't fall in line to be a ***** is what I'm saying so don't put them on ignore.

Never had any problems with someone flaming my thread either so...some put people on ignore for that reason but most do it because they just don't want your opinion heard.

[The Gambler1981]

The point is simple,

if you agree that boxing is a business,


you should have no problem with Freddie trying to get his fighter more money in any way possible.

Negotions are negotiations everybody is trying to get the best deal possible for their guy. It is what it is that is just another stipulation but if Floyd gives that up Pacman better expect to give something up.

I have no problem with Manny's side comming into negotiations making demands they should be doing that, just like Floyd's side should be. Hopefully they can get it all worked out to everyones likeing behind closed doors or it is everyones loss.

[Vasyl’s dad]

It's a ***** Move...no question...but don't fall in line to be a ***** is what I'm saying.

I got you dude,

not my style.

If I have someone on ignore,

I'm not going to post in their threads as the entire point of having someone on ignore is because you don't care about what they say.

[Benny Leonard]

The point is simple,

if you agree that boxing is a business,


you should have no problem with Freddie trying to get his fighter more money in any way possible.

So it would have to be a money tactic soley?

So in other words: I say, 60/40 split in my favor and I want you to weigh 145. You say: "NO." So I say: Fine, what do you want? and you say: 60/40 split in my favor and the bout at 147. And then I say: how about 55/45split in my favor and I'll give you a pound to get it to 146?
You say: NO...I want it at 147.
I say: No deal: how about I give you your 147 and will make it 50/50?

Now that is completely if my/Freddie's intention is to get it to 50/50 in the end by starting out high with demands of 60/40 and 145...and understanding that the only way this fight is going to be made is the deal is 50/50...since you know Floyd isn't going to take less and know he has to feel like he won something in negotiations: he won the weight battle.


Now Freddie's thinking could really just be about 60/40 and having Floyd lose weight to both get the leverage in money and health advantage.
But, I'm not sure. Freddie did say in one interview that 50/50 was fair.

[Benny Leonard]

I got you dude,

not my style.

If I have someone on ignore,

I'm not going to post in their threads as the entire point of having someone on ignore is because you don't care about what they say.

Ah...understand. Makes sense

[PAKYO]

So you are saying floyd provided ****** entertainment on the night of JMM/Mayweather? That makes absolutely no sense. When i mentioned roach and malignaggi i pointed out that you didint use the term "******" when talking about their less than sportsman antics outside the ring.

Since you are clarifying you are talking about what happens in the ring, what "******" entertainment did floyd engage in?

What? You don't see all this crap talk about Pac? That's ****** entertainment man. That's what it is and most of us here is doing.

Do i have to specifically say that about pauli and roach when you know it's the same crap? Or you're just baiting me on?

Damn, i don't know what you get of out it but i'll stop right now.