Ross Greenburg: "until Pacquiao beats Mayweather, his legacy is not complete". AGREE?

[sycomantz]

Mayweather haven't earn the right to fight Pacquiao as of yet. He needs to go back of the line after Mosley, Margarito and Cotto II.

He also needs to prove himself first and fight real WW before even considering a fight with Pacquiao.

another one of the typical ******* excuses so pac can avoid a fight with May

[Talisayen]

another one of the typical ******* excuses so pac can avoid a fight with May

I only speak the truth and nothin' else.

Mayweather is not worthy of fighting Pac.

[Bernie Madoff]

What lineal titles did Zab and Oscar had when Floyd beat him at 154? Again yes titles are easy to win. Lineal titles are to win. 3 lineal titles in 8 of the original weightclass is even harder to win. How can it be overrated or overvalued when really only immortals do it. Oscar never did it, Zab never did it, Floyd has not done and does not seem close to doing it, think about it Duran never did it, Whitaker never did it, Chavez never did it, Arguello never did it. I can go on and on bro. There is nothink overrated or overvalued about winning 3 lineal titles in 3 of the original 8 weightclasses.

I think manny has seven, Oscar has six, Floyd and SRL have 5, etc. I'm not sure, but i think that is the ranking right now.

Please keep in mind that the modern greats will have mone than the legends because there were no junior/supers back in the day.

[sycomantz]

I only speak the truth and nothin' else.

Mayweather is not worthy of fighting Pac.

thats right, the real truth showing the fear of pac losing if he gets in the ringwith floyd

[RodBarker]

I disagree. IMO legacy-wise, Pac > Floyd, even with Floyd beating Pac.

...cosign

Its a big statement if Floyd beats Pac while in his prime as is Pac beating Floyd , legacy is whatever value you put on it , legacy is not decisive its opinionated , a fighter beating a fighter is decisive , if Floyd beats Pac it will over ride Pacs resume and history will say Floyd was better .

[Bernie Madoff]

What lineal titles did Zab and Oscar had when Floyd beat him at 154?.

The Oscar move was a pure money chase for Floyd. the 154 title was bonus.

But at the time that Zab lost to Baldomir, Zab's title was the best one in the sport. I remember that because I found it an oddity that Zab was the only TRUE "champion" and he wasted it. That is how Zab cracked the p4p list.

[sycomantz]

Its a big statement if Floyd beats Pac while in his prime as is Pac beating Floyd , legacy is whatever value you put on it , legacy is not decisive its opinionated , a fighter beating a fighter is decisive , if Floyd beats Pac it will over ride Pacs resume and history will say Floyd was better .

green k.........

[fcastro1]

Nobody belittled the achievement. You are being sensitive. Please read my posts.

The point is that if you will give credit to Pac for "starting at 106", then I will give the same credit to those guys who "started at 106" at the same age. Floyd should NOT be talking about Pac's meaningless losses as a teen. Similarly, I'm not that interested in Pac's belts as a teen.

It isn't a coincidence that the same guys who were dominating the ams are (largely) the same guys dominating the pros. Agreed?

so winning a world title and the lineal title as a teen is not an accomplishment?
what i am trying to tell you is that it is a whole lot harder winning the wbc and lineal title(the true title) as a teen than winning a national or international amateur title, how are you dis*****g this. this is what makes pac great that he has done this.

[MindBat]

Since Pac decided to fight and stay at WW rather than move back down to the lighter weights, he stands to face a challenge against the 2nd best in the sport right now.

He probably didn't want to commit to fight Floyd right away because he may decide to announce his retirement instead. But, it's inevitable.

The fans want it, Freddie Roach agrees, and Arum is making moves toward making it happen.

This is once and for all.

[Bernie Madoff]

Beware of this Greenburg guy. He is a GBP whipping boy for starters.

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Well, he is doing his job. Like everybody else. It is RARE that you hear somebody talking and the person isn't just doing their job.

For example, after Sept 19, oscar was saying that the only fight that mattered was Floyd/Shane. now, Oscar says that the only fight that matters is Floyd/Pac.

i take everything with a grain of salt, and only submit for discussion.

I just wish that people would just discuss without the mud-slinging.