FIREPOWER 2!!! Can miguel pull it off??? I think so!!

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  • zalez787
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    #51
    Originally posted by kenso
    umm if this was the case, then cotto would have gotten back to his game plan after the first knockdown. dude, do you honestly believe miguel is better than pacquiao? he just got annihilated. jesus christ! dude its sad how sore of a loser you are, and you aren't even the one who lost. cotto is the one who lost and he sure isn't a sore loser. if he would read this thread right now, cotto himself would call you a moron. but cotto cant read this thread cause his eyes are nearly swollen shut.

    most everyone loves cotto dude, but he lost, he will never be on pacquiao's level, but thats no shame cause pacquiao has already cracked the top 20 ATG list apparently. give your boy some love, by not disgracing his name by being a poor fan.
    I dont think Miguel is better than Pacquiao , I believe Cotto has more resources. And Cotto actually fought smart in the first , and then completely forgot about it , either that , or he wanted to be the hero and try to outland Manny. I support Cotto al the way and Give Manny credit , whats with these idiots not seeing the point I want to make , Do you or do you not agree that he actually could have kept Manny off from him , more than he acutally did , Why not if he did it in the first?? oh wait I know , cuz Pac said he wanted to test Cottos power. Please man. If u cant see past that then I cant help you.

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    • zalez787
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      #52
      Originally posted by VoodooChild
      He's not that kind of fighter, if someone wants to mix it up with him he's more than willing to. That's the style that got him to the dance in the first place and he's not going to abandon it unless someone breaks his will. So far only 2 men have been able to.
      Exactly , u said it , he wasnt going to abandon what got him there , And thats exactly what he needed to do, fight differently !!! If he wanted to win this fight anyways!!!

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      • PhonzoXD
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        #53
        Originally posted by zalez787
        They both could have changed their gameplans , But Cotto has more resources imo , U take away Mannys speed , and what does he have?? , nothing ,And how do u take away his speed , Like Cotto did in the first!!!
        goooddd dammm im talking to a wall

        Cotto didnt take away his speed in first round, he LET HIM HIT HIM.

        Also no, Cotto doesnt have more resources. Did you see Pac's defense on the ropes? He looked like Clottey.

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        • VoodooChild
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          #54
          Originally posted by zalez787
          Exactly , u said it , he wasnt going to abandon what got him there , And thats exactly what he needed to do, fight differently !!! If he wanted to win this fight anyways!!!
          No, he could not pull off that style against a fighter as fast as Manny for more than 1-2 rounds. He doesn't have the reflexes of Mayweather and he would get landed on over and over again when Manny decided to turn up the heat.

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          • Section8Studios
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            #55
            At 147 and with an expirienced trainer , he can definitely pull it off.

            Cotto should have never taken this fight under Roach's terms , Roach did everything possible to give Manny every advantage.

            Cotto took this fight at 145 for 4 reasons...

            - He's a warrior who loves a challenge
            - He underestimated Pac big time which was the biggest mistake of his life.
            - The Pay was good.
            - The fame and attention was good.

            He's the complete opposite of Mayweather, but that does not make him a good negotiator. Mayweather won't be fooled like that by Roach.

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            • zalez787
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              #56
              Originally posted by PhonzoXD
              goooddd dammm im talking to a wall

              Cotto didnt take away his speed in first round, he LET HIM HIT HIM.

              Also no, Cotto doesnt have more resources. Did you see Pac's defense on the ropes? He looked like Clottey.
              LoL , whatever man , He let him hit him alright , u go with that, thats what kept Cotto from fighting the same way he did in the first. Ur so ****** u dont even get what am trying to discuss and what Im trying to get opinions on. Not the way pac fought. Pac said , Im going to see what he has for 3 minutes , it wasnt enough for the first minute , no it wasnt enough , he tried his power and his jab for three minutes, and then went all out , and then Cotto said , He tried my power for 1 round , and I fought smart , now let me engage with him so I can feel his power from now on , because I cant put up a tight defense , jab and counter smart and pick my spots like I did in the first , I just cant do that for 1 more round , Please bro!!! eres mas cerrao que un coco!!!
              Last edited by zalez787; 11-17-2009, 12:26 AM.

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              • zalez787
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                #57
                Originally posted by VoodooChild
                No, he could not pull off that style against a fighter as fast as Manny for more than 1-2 rounds. He doesn't have the reflexes of Mayweather and he would get landed on over and over again when Manny decided to turn up the heat.
                Thank you bro , thats all I wanted , opinions , I see what u mean. And I agree with you. It just made me wonder , if Cotto would have not fallen into mannys fight and actually picked his shots , he would have snapped Mannys head back a whole lot more , and who knows what could have happened.

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                • kenso
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by zalez787
                  I dont think Miguel is better than Pacquiao , I believe Cotto has more resources. And Cotto actually fought smart in the first , and then completely forgot about it , either that , or he wanted to be the hero and try to outland Manny. I support Cotto al the way and Give Manny credit , whats with these idiots not seeing the point I want to make , Do you or do you not agree that he actually could have kept Manny off from him , more than he acutally did , Why not if he did it in the first?? oh wait I know , cuz Pac said he wanted to test Cottos power. Please man. If u cant see past that then I cant help you.
                  cotto has more resources? manny pacquiao has speed and ferocious power. he probably hits harder than miguel. manny has a better defense, he has a better offense, he has a better trainer, he is faster, he is smarter, he has a better chin, he has better endurance, he has more going for him....

                  dude you don't even realize what you are saying. your argument is moot, your fighter just lost... could cotto have kept pacquiao off of him? NO, even if he did abandon everything that makes him miguel cotto and try to be defensive and what ever else you want him to do, it would not have changed the outcome in any way. miguel cotto still would have gotten a terrible beating, it's only a matter of time before manny finds his left hand on your face.

                  im done with this thread.

                  your argument is getting annihilated here, but yet you still stick with the same ****** opinion. no matter what is said, there is no changing a person like you's point of view. you will always be ******ed until you get out of denial. i honestly mean that. look at your life dude, clearly you have issues extending far beyond the misunderstanding of the sport of boxing. take a look at your life, you are seriously braindead man. wake up.

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                  • MaD RoBoT
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by zalez787
                    You know why that happened??? Cuz Cotto didnt do the same fight , He tried to outpower and exchange , and Manny got the best of him , now stfu!!!
                    which is a very ****** decision for cotto, just like you

                    Originally posted by zalez787
                    They both could have changed their gameplans , But Cotto has more resources imo , U take away Mannys speed , and what does he have?? , nothing ,And how do u take away his speed , Like Cotto did in the first!!!
                    even if they fought at the same pace, pac will still walk thru cotto's punches coz he was tough mentally, which cotto didn't possess

                    Originally posted by Section8Studios
                    At 147 and with an expirienced trainer , he can definitely pull it off.

                    Cotto should have never taken this fight under Roach's terms , Roach did everything possible to give Manny every advantage.

                    Cotto took this fight at 145 for 4 reasons...

                    - He's a warrior who loves a challenge
                    - He underestimated Pac big time which was the biggest mistake of his life.
                    - The Pay was good.
                    - The fame and attention was good.

                    He's the complete opposite of Mayweather, but that does not make him a good negotiator. Mayweather won't be fooled like that by Roach.

                    look son, even if the fight was at 147 or 154 or 145, it will be the same result
                    Manny is mentally tougher than cotto

                    i would admit that cotto has more tools that can beat Pac but he doesn't have any balls to impose his will over Pac's

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                    • VoodooChild
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by zalez787
                      Thank you bro , thats all I wanted , opinions , I see what u mean. And I agree with you. It just made me wonder , if Cotto would have not fallen into mannys fight and actually picked his shots , he would have snapped Mannys head back a whole lot more , and who knows what could have happened.
                      It's tough, Miguel has always been a class act and one of my favorite fighters but he wasn't going to beat Pacquiao. Manny is something special, he's a fighter that comes a long once a generation and I feel privileged to have watched him fight. Miguel with all his tools just does not match up well with Manny.

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