FIREPOWER 2!!! Can miguel pull it off??? I think so!!

[kenso]

this thread is ridiculous, with many ridiculous responses.

look, cotto fought a brilliant first round cause pacquiao didn't really DO much in the first round. the first round of every fight is pretty much testing the waters, no one wants to get tua'd. the second round pacquiao started opening up, he'd tasted a little of cotto's power and had a better idea of what cotto was bringing to the table. seriously, cotto looked great in this fight - but he was fighting manny pacquiao. dude cotto has had tons of close fights with all sorts of people. manny pacquiao has been on a complete terror aside from JMM. i love cotto, and i like that you are enthusiastic about your fighter, but he just got BEAT BADLY. pacquiao quickly adjusted to cotto, it wasn't the other way around. if cotto went back to camp and trained on new things, pacquiao would simply adjust and cotto wouldn't have the answer. there is no shame in losing to pacquiao, he is a complete fighter. no one has an answer to him yet. don't feel bad cause cotto lost, but show some real respect for pacquiao, hes the best, even your boy cotto says pacquiao is the best fighter in the world, meaning that he's better than cotto.

seriously, don't talk about your fighter beating someone he just got annihilated by 2 nights ago. would you honestly want to see your boy go through such a beating again? be realistic, not a maniacal fanboy.

and just to throw it in cotto vs mosley was very very close, there really wasnt a loser, to think one clearly beat the other is kind of ******ed. Cotto out jabbed mosley, but mosley landed more power shots. kind of the opposite of what you expected right?

[koboy]

ok so hypothetically speaking. If this fight were to happen.

First , Cotto needs a new trainer. Not wanting to disrespect Joe Santiago or Manny, but cotto had the right stuff to beat Manny and I will explain why.

First round: Cotto dictates the paste and doesnt engage in exchanges , counters very good , matches Mannys explosiveness by catching him with quick jabs coming from a nice angle.

That was key for a victory. And I dont care who says what. As long as Cotto kept this up he had this fight , and this is where Mayweathers last statement about pac being one dimensional kicks into gear.

I can see why maywetaher considers Manny a one dimensional fighter, Manny last 5 opponents , 3 mexicans , Hatton and De la Hoya. Mexicans love to exchange , they are hit me so I can hit you harder type fighters. And that gives Manny the edge with his way superior speed. Hatton , he throws and throws , with no defense , Manny throws and throws , with some defense and better accuracy , and De la Hoya. Which had no chance.

Manny can only beat you one way. With his speed. But unless you dont give him an open canvas , he wont have anywhere to paint his shots.How do you do that. Box Box Box a lot.

Jab , jab , jab , counter and pick your spots , and thats exactly what Cotto did in the first.

He dictated the paste of the first round , did not let Manny settle into his fighting style which is exchange a lot and Ill beat you with my speed.

From the second round on , Cotto forgot that Mannys speed , is out of the ordinary. Take away his speed , and he doesnt have much resources , only his bounce a lot style of walking the ring which will make you miss a lot ,And Cotto took his speed away in the first round.

Cotto thought that after that first round , he could actually throw combinations and that Manny will not engage. after all , it was called FIREPOWER. somebody was going to land first , we all knew who had the advantage , and we all knew what the other guy had to do , what he did in the first. And forgot to do from the second on. Cotto engage and fell into Manny trap , he tried to outland and beat Manny to the punch and you cannot do that. After that fight , I came to the conclusion that whoever beats manny pacquiao is going to do it in a boring fight , lacking a lot of action , and using a lot of defense.

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face......by MANNY PACQUIAO.

[PhonzoXD]

Look bro , Pac is awesome , he is great he whooped that ass , but he isnt unbeatable , and Cotto had the tools and fought smart in the first , am I not allowed to talk about it ,. gtfoh , Is my opinion u either agree or not , But I been around this life for a while and did some boxing myself to talk about it. I had Amateur fighters and trainers along to watch the fight with me who saw it this way and Made me see what they were talking bout , most people in here , just watch these fighters and have never hit a heavy bag or even know how to hit the speed bag bro. So please man. If u dont like it dont comment. But if u had any kind of ring awareness , and knew anything about strategy you would see my point , Im not complaining Cotto got whooped , am I not allowed to analize this fight , And give my opinion on where Cotto failed , What kind of thread would u like me to do. Please man. the heart of some people

Anyone who have done a bit of Ameteur boxing think they know more than others.

[zalez787]

Nah, the first couple rounds were feeling out rounds for Manny. He was testing the waters to see what Miguel had. Once he knew that he could take Miguel's shot he started to open up and unleash in the 3rd. It was only a matter of time before Miguel broke.

I don't think Cotto will ever be the same after that fight, he'd lose even worse if there was a rematch.

One of the very few that debates smart.Look , after all we are all posting our opinions in here, U may be right and I may be wrong , but let me tell u something , Even if manny was testing the waters, Cotto landed shots after the first , and snapped mannys head back a few times after the first round, who is to say that with patience he would have not taken the same punishment , and with patience he would have kept snapping Mannys head back a lot more , and eventually hurt him. I might be wrong , but that was Cottos only chance of breaking him down.

[zalez787]

this thread is ridiculous, with many ridiculous responses.

look, cotto fought a brilliant first round cause pacquiao didn't really DO much in the first round. the first round of every fight is pretty much testing the waters, no one wants to get tua'd. the second round pacquiao started opening up, he'd tasted a little of cotto's power and had a better idea of what cotto was bringing to the table. seriously, cotto looked great in this fight - but he was fighting manny pacquiao. dude cotto has had tons of close fights with all sorts of people. manny pacquiao has been on a complete terror aside from JMM. i love cotto, and i like that you are enthusiastic about your fighter, but he just got BEAT BADLY. pacquiao quickly adjusted to cotto, it wasn't the other way around. if cotto went back to camp and trained on new things, pacquiao would simply adjust and cotto wouldn't have the answer. there is no shame in losing to pacquiao, he is a complete fighter. no one has an answer to him yet. don't feel bad cause cotto lost, but show some real respect for pacquiao, hes the best, even your boy cotto says pacquiao is the best fighter in the world, meaning that he's better than cotto.

seriously, don't talk about your fighter beating someone he just got annihilated by 2 nights ago. would you honestly want to see your boy go through such a beating again? be realistic, not a maniacal fanboy.

and just to throw it in cotto vs mosley was very very close, there really wasnt a loser, to think one clearly beat the other is kind of ******ed. Cotto out jabbed mosley, but mosley landed more power shots. kind of the opposite of what you expected right?

Was it that Manny didnt do much , or Cotto didnt give him much to work with cuz he surprised him?? You dont see that???

[koboy]

One of the very few that debates smart.Look , after all we are all posting our opinions in here, U may be right and I may be wrong , but let me tell u something , Even if manny was testing the waters, Cotto landed shots after the first , and snapped mannys head back a few times after the first round, who is to say that with patience he would have not taken the same punishment , and with patience he would have kept snapping Mannys head back a lot more , and eventually hurt him. I might be wrong , but that was Cottos only chance of breaking him down.

As I've said before:

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face......by MANNY PACQUIAO.

Ask JMM, EM, MAB, DD, ODLH, RH, and now Cotto.

[zalez787]

Anyone who have done a bit of Ameteur boxing think they know more than others.

Im not going to get in a debate when that is the best u can answer , **** it , i didnt come up with this View and I was able to see it> Maybe you dont have the capacity to do so. SOme people say Manny didnt do a lot , and that may be the case , but did u ever think Cotto smart attack didnt give him much to work with. U prob didnt think about that. Its hard for some people to see past the "obvious". obvious for you.

[MaD RoBoT]

One of the very few that debates smart.Look , after all we are all posting our opinions in here, U may be right and I may be wrong , but let me tell u something , Even if manny was testing the waters, Cotto landed shots after the first , and snapped mannys head back a few times after the first round, who is to say that with patience he would have not taken the same punishment , and with patience he would have kept snapping Mannys head back a lot more , and eventually hurt him. I might be wrong , but that was Cottos only chance of breaking him down.

but the problem is HE DIDN"T

you know why?

coz he's been BRUTALIZED in the succeeding rounds

now STFU

[PhonzoXD]

Im not going to get in a debate when that is the best u can answer , **** it , i didnt come up with this View and I was able to see it> Maybe you dont have the capacity to do so. SOme people say Manny didnt do a lot , and that may be the case , but did u ever think Cotto smart attack didnt give him much to work with. U prob didnt think about that. Its hard for some people to see past the "obvious". obvious for you.

are you gonna just keep putting words into peoples mouth?

[PhonzoXD]

also you type like you been hit on the head too many times during your ameteur career.