Does he deserve Pac, do you still want the fight made.

[Ogecca MaMa]

of course he deserves. then how he've been making more $ on PVVS then Pacqauio + he was p4p king, until Sta night. Sure i'ld love to see Mayweatehr fighting winner of Berto/Mosley fight, but if the fight can happen soon - be it!

[Bhopreign]

Cotto did beat Clottey (in my mind and thev judges) and Hatton was still ranked the best 140lber in the world. Am I lying?

Because he hadnt lost there, what does that have to do with him already losing to Floyd and looking bad against Lazcano?

[jrosales13]

Zab losing to Baldy made Zab more focused to fight Floyd, I guarantee you had Zab beaten Baldomir, he wouldnt have put up the focused fight he did for the first 5 rounds against Floyd. The fight was already signed before he lost to Baldomir so its not like Floyd could have gotten out of it without being sued by Zab or paying some money, everybody still wanted to see that fight, only haters complained about Zab losing. Its sad to see you guys everyday try and diminish Floyd's accomplisments, but its also funny.

That is not true the fight was not signed. Yes they had an agreement but both had to win. When Zab lossed Floyd could have taken another fight if he wanted to. And, Zab wouldn't be able to do nothing about it. But, Zab was willing to even take way less money and give a Floyd a bigger share of the pie. Just so the fight could happen and Floyd agreed.

And, not everybody wanted to see that fight. It did less than 400k buys on PPV. Pac-Marquez did more at 130. Think about that Floyd-Zab a fight that everybody wanted to see and it was at a cache weightclass of 147 couldn't sell more than Pac-Marquez? Cotto-Margarito did more buys than Floyd-Zab. So not everybody wanted to see that fight.

[Bhopreign]

Than discredit my post. I ain't going nowhere, and I welcome the challenge. Bring it!

Again if Pac acted like Floyd out of the ring and Floyd acted like Pac your whole theory would be reversed, after all you said you respect Floyd's skills but not his attitude, says alot.

[BawK]

so pac beating david diaz at 135 and ducking juan diaz, and nate campbell equates in your mind as the best

at 140 fighting hatton instead of tim bardley, kendall holt, or ricardo torres represented the best

at 147 fighting hoya who is not ranked at 147 and cotto is better than fighting mosley, or mayweather

why fight Gatti instead of Kostya or Cotto at 140?

why fight Baldomir/Zab instead of Margarito or Mosley at 147?

why fight Dela Hoya instead of Pavlik or Abraham at 154?

[The Gambler1981]

Cuz Baldomir is not a pretty good fighter. I am sorry he was a Zab Judah creation. I give Floyd credit for winning the lineal WW title. But, Baldomir was the worse lineal WW champion there ever was. Zab I am sorry overrated. I don't give Clottey credit for beating Zab why would I give Floyd? Especially after Zab was coming off a loss to Baldomir. Peple don't really give Pac credit for beating Morales after Erik was coming off a loss to Raheem. But, at least Erik lossed to Raheem at a weightclass he didn't belong in and went backdown to a more natural weightclass. And, Raheem was a better fighter than Baldomir.

Mosley is the man at WW #1 guy. Lineage claim goes through Mosley. Pac-Mayweather fight will be fighting for the #2 spot at WW. Pac-Mosley would be historic. If Pac wins that would give him 3 lineal title in 3 of the origanal 8 weightclass. Think about that? Only fighter in over 100yrs to win a lineal Flyweight title and a lineal WW title.

And, by the way lets say Pac beats Mosley wouldn't that even make a Floyd fight even bigger than what it is.

Why *****foot around? Also who says Mosley beats Berto that is not for sure.

All I have to say to the rest is think what you want but they are all very good fighters that I listed, how you rate them on the scale is up to you but none of them were bad each had positive attribute, now wether those attributes would really be troubling to Floyd is up for debate but each one of those fights boxing experts made cases for the other guy.

Floyd has earned his spot in the sport is my only point, think about him as you wish that is your right but his place in the sport was not judt bestowed upon him he fought a lot of vastly different guys and only once was ever close to defeat.

These are the two best fighters in the world without question and they are in the same ballpark in terms of weight currently, this is what boxing fans are suppose to dream about two really great fighters with vastly different styles fighting, there need not be more to it then that.

[Brandish]

Take the **** out of your mouth.

Diaz was a belt.

Hattonb was ranked the best at 140 by every boxing scribe I can think of.

nd Cotto is far and away better than anyone Floyd has beaten at 147.

Any more questions?

did I touch a nerve

you specifically said pac always fights the best well was david diaz the best at 135

was hatton the best at 140 based on recent wins and comp. remember the zxoo fight was in 2005

was cotto and dela hoya the best at 147 or was it mosley and mayweather

and remeber he asked for cotto at 145 and hoya at 147..someone doesn't have faith in their skills.

when floyd moved up he never pulled a ***** move like this and the reason why is skills pays the bills.

[Bhopreign]

That is not true the fight was not signed. Yes they had an agreement but both had to win. When Zab lossed Floyd could have taken another fight if he wanted to. And, Zab wouldn't be able to do nothing about it. But, Zab was willing to even take way less money and give a Floyd a bigger share of the pie. Just so the fight could happen and Floyd agreed.

And, not everybody wanted to see that fight. It did less than 400k buys on PPV. Pac-Marquez did more at 130. Think about that Floyd-Zab a fight that everybody wanted to see and it was at a cache weightclass of 147 couldn't sell more than Pac-Marquez? Cotto-Margarito did more buys than Floyd-Zab. So not everybody wanted to see that fight.

Who wanted to see Diaz/Pac?

[JAB5239]

Because he hadnt lost there, what does that have to do with him already losing to Floyd and looking bad against Lazcano?

Fighters look bad from time to time. If you need me to go through history I guess I can find the time. BNut the FACT is, Hatton already said 147 was not his best weight before fighting Floyd. Now tell me,k am I lying?

[jrosales13]

Pac

-gets embarassed by morales
-rematch with morales after morlaes loses to raheem (the same as judah-baldomir)
-fights a shot morales a third time

-fights to a draw vs JMM
-Gift descision again in the rematch
-cherry picks the easiest 135 lb titlist
-fights drained oscar @ 147 2 years later after floyd fought him @ a healthy 154
-fights hatton after Mayweather KO'd him and took his undefeated streak and dignitity
-drains Cotto to 145 and roach said he was drained mentally and psychically shot.

lol you really want to play that game with me? Floyd beat Hernandez in Hernandez good bye fight. Chicanito was old.

Corrales weight drain.

JLC was coming off of two gift decision from Stevie Johnston. And, then Floyd gets a gift decision against Castillo.

Cherry picks, Ndou, Sosa, Bruses, Mitchell, Hernandez.

I mean I could really keep going but that would be taking it to the extreme. But, I will take it there if you wanted to be taken there.