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  • Bhopreign
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    JMM is not a good fighter at WW, Zab was coming of a loss to a journeyman, Hatton at 147 struggled against Collazo, Corley was coming off a loss to an overrated Judah, Gatti was worn, too many wars, Oscar was old was 2-2 in 4yrs going into the bout and should of been 1-3. And, his last good win was 2002 against Vargas, lol @ Baldomir being a pretty good fighter.
    Total crap thats been regurgitated over and over, I guess because the Patriots lost to the Colts whoever the Patriots play next should get no credit for beating them.

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    • JAB5239
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      JMM, Zab, Hatton, Oscar, Baldomir, Corley, Gatti take your pick they are all pretty good fighters most of them have been champs in two or more divisions.

      Floyd has proven himself and has earned his place in the sport, accept it or not that is on you.

      The fact remains that these are the two most skilled and recognized fighters in the world, there need not be more of a reason then this for the fight to take place, anything else is just nit picking.
      Could have sworn I said to put this in av time frame.

      Marqueez never fought over lightweight.

      Zab had just lost to a journeyman.

      Baldomir was a journeyman.

      Oscar was part time, I don't include Pacs win beither exce pt that he was such a heavy underdog.

      Hattons best weight was NEVER 147, he said it after the Collazo fight.

      Skould I really get into Gatti and Corley?

      Don't make me laugh!!!!

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      • fabzmm
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        #43
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        JMM is not a good fighter at WW, Zab was coming of a loss to a journeyman, Hatton at 147 struggled against Collazo, Corley was coming off a loss to an overrated Judah, Gatti was worn, too many wars, Oscar was old was 2-2 in 4yrs going into the bout and should of been 1-3. And, his last good win was 2002 against Vargas, lol @ Baldomir being a pretty good fighter.

        Floyd-Pac is the biggest fight out there. But, Mosley-Pac could be historic. I really want to see Pac-Mosley. And, that is not an easy fight for Pac. I think Mosley could beat him. But, if Pac wins he adds another lineal title.
        Pac

        -gets embarassed by morales
        -rematch with morales after morlaes loses to raheem (the same as judah-baldomir)
        -fights a shot morales a third time

        -fights to a draw vs JMM
        -Gift descision again in the rematch
        -cherry picks the easiest 135 lb titlist
        -fights drained oscar @ 147 2 years later after floyd fought him @ a healthy 154
        -fights hatton after Mayweather KO'd him and took his undefeated streak and dignitity
        -drains Cotto to 145 and roach said he was drained mentally and psychically shot.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          JMM is not a good fighter at WW, Zab was coming of a loss to a journeyman, Hatton at 147 struggled against Collazo, Corley was coming off a loss to an overrated Judah, Gatti was worn, too many wars, Oscar was old was 2-2 in 4yrs going into the bout and should of been 1-3. And, his last good win was 2002 against Vargas, lol @ Baldomir being a pretty good fighter.

          Floyd-Pac is the biggest fight out there. But, Mosley-Pac could be historic. I really want to see Pac-Mosley. And, that is not an easy fight for Pac. I think Mosley could beat him. But, if Pac wins he adds another lineal title.
          Make excuses if you want but those are all very good fighters, why not just give someone credit? Why continue this bull**** where no one ever gets any credit?

          Mosley is old and not a real challenge for any great fighter (Floyd or Manny) in my opinion, and to me he is likely to lose to Berto~.

          Floyd vs. Manny is a true superfight a flawless diamond of a fight any real boxing fans should want to see a true superfight like this some historic ****. Manny-Mosley is just a run of the mill big fight~

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          • Brandish
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            #45
            Stop acting like a little girl. The best following has NEVER determined the best fighter. I dare any ***** to tell me different!
            so pac beating david diaz at 135 and ducking juan diaz, and nate campbell equates in your mind as the best

            at 140 fighting hatton instead of tim bardley, kendall holt, or ricardo torres represented the best

            at 147 fighting hoya who is not ranked at 147 and cotto is better than fighting mosley, or mayweather

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            • Syf
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              #46
              just make the fight....enough with the bull****

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                #47
                Originally posted by fabzmm
                Are you denying Floyds accomplishments as a fighter? Floyd has official belts and one @ 154 to be exact. Manny fought a bull**** title fight at a catchweight.

                Manny has fought one of the best welterweights within the welterweight limit. Floyd has fought one of the best jr lightweights/lightweights withinh the welterweight limit. Tou tell me what is more credible?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JAB5239
                  Could have sworn I said to put this in av time frame.

                  Marqueez never fought over lightweight.

                  Zab had just lost to a journeyman.

                  Baldomir was a journeyman.

                  Oscar was part time, I don't include Pacs win beither exce pt that he was such a heavy underdog.

                  Hattons best weight was NEVER 147, he said it after the Collazo fight.

                  Skould I really get into Gatti and Corley?

                  Don't make me laugh!!!!
                  Not giving someone due credit is your issue not mine, I laid it out for you think what you want.

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                  • Bhopreign
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    Manny has fought one of the best welterweights within the welterweight limit. Floyd has fought one of the best jr lightweights/lightweights withinh the welterweight limit. Tou tell me what is more credible?
                    Many thought Clottey beat Cotto, so did I, so in my mind Cotto was coming off a loss, not to mention him not looking the same after Margarito. Hatton probably wasnt the same after Floyd. Im sure you give him massive credit for beating Diaz also right.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Brandish
                      so pac beating david diaz at 135 and ducking juan diaz, and nate campbell equates in your mind as the best

                      at 140 fighting hatton instead of tim bardley, kendall holt, or ricardo torres represented the best

                      at 147 fighting hoya who is not ranked at 147 and cotto is better than fighting mosley, or mayweather

                      Take the **** out of your mouth.

                      Diaz was a belt.

                      Hattonb was ranked the best at 140 by every boxing scribe I can think of.

                      nd Cotto is far and away better than anyone Floyd has beaten at 147.

                      Any more questions?

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