Cotto's Rebuilding Needs a New Trainer, The Right Fights

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  • MR.CHICANITO
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    #101
    Originally posted by lopez36
    berinstain would be good for him,,,but i still think tony will beat him again...easier this time..cotto took too many punches from tony,clottey and now manny....he might improve with berinstain,but he will need to fight a couple of tune ups with berinstain first,then go for another championship...but this is just talk,good idea though
    hey miguel cotto took a serious ass beating in the ring he needs a break and a new trainer why would he even hire a guy like joe santiago ? it makes no sense i've never heard of him and plus he has no big fight experience which is a no brainer when at this point miguel cotto needs a top trainer with lots of experience

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    • rob6465
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      #102
      Originally posted by MR.CHICANITO
      hey miguel cotto took a serious ass beating in the ring he needs a break and a new trainer why would he even hire a guy like joe santiago ? it makes no sense i've never heard of him and plus he has no big fight experience which is a no brainer when at this point miguel cotto needs a top trainer with lots of experience
      Big mistake on his part. Think about ALL the top 15 fighters out there (Pacquiao, floyd, mosley, marquez, etc, etc). They all have experienced trainers. Santiago is good for a new fighter but not for Cotto. He needs to tell Joe that it's nothing personal but all business. If he doesn't, he won't get back on top again and i'm a big Cotto supporter.

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      • shade darkar
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        #103
        Originally posted by rob6465
        Floyd vs Oscar did 2.5 million in 2007
        Floyd vs Hatton did 900,000 in 2007
        Floyd vs Marquez did about 1 million in 2009
        We must take into consideration the economy and price set on these PPV fights.


        Floyd vs Pacquiao? More than 2 million??? I think so.
        you could add 1.4 mil to the hatton mayweather fight aswell.

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        • JBell11
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          #104
          In my mind ****m Richardson would be a good fit. If Cotto allows ****m to "train" him and lead the camp. I think Cotto will come back strong. ****m is very technical and would nuture Cotto's natural boxing ability. ****m is also a very good strategist in the ring. ****m looks like he would check Cotto when/if he tries to "do his own thing".

          That would be my pick.

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          • rommel357
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            #105
            I would have Cotto fight Margarito for his next fight so he can finally really redeem himself and hopefully he'll get on a roll again and come back. Cotto is still young and i think he hasn't reached his full peak yet.

            BTW, i would also hire Roach to train him. He would be the best option out there for him and i think Roach would help him alot.
            Last edited by rommel357; 11-16-2009, 10:57 AM.

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            • freedom213
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              #106
              Originally posted by Iceta
              Cotto to me, just seems like a guy who doesn't really want to develop anymore boxing intelligence, because he thinks that he can just overwhelm guys with the gifts he's got. That is what separates him from a fighter like Manny Pacquiao. Pacquiao seems to be getting better and better. I'm not saying that's not the same Cotto that we've always been used to seeing. He still gets hit a lot and his will seems to fade late in fights. But one thing everybody agrees on and Grustler mentioned it above, that Cotto is not improving as a fighter. The story this thread alludes to points it out as well.

              What you and many others should take into account is that while Cotto needs to get a new team and correct/improve on many aspects of his game these weaknesses have been uncovered while fighting nothing but the best. Other fighters who have ben criticized on this level are? Not one boxer, because no one has fought the caliber of opponents recently that Cotto has. I remember when people said similiar things about Mosely after his losses to Winky. If Cotto fights on he needs to make a change but berating him in the context of the PAc fight is ridiculous. Who else could do the things that Pac did that night? No one in boxing can throw punches with power and speed form those crazy angles and at that pace. 99% of conversations regarding Cotto's loss should lead back to how damn good Pac is, how in the hell is he punching so hard while retaining his speed and more impressive his movement and stamina at this weight is incredible.

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              • freedom213
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                #107
                Originally posted by JBell11
                In my mind ****m Richardson would be a good fit. If Cotto allows ****m to "train" him and lead the camp. I think Cotto will come back strong. ****m is very technical and would nuture Cotto's natural boxing ability. ****m is also a very good strategist in the ring. ****m looks like he would check Cotto when/if he tries to "do his own thing".

                That would be my pick.

                excellent pick I agree a very good fit.

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                • DD09
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by leonthegee
                  actually i does if u think 2 lbs. is nothing than why were they pressing so hard for it? they wanted mosley at 142lbs. if the weight wasnt a factor manny would be going up to ww limit to fight these guys.
                  They did the 145b Limit because they had no idea how Manny would handle a WW of Cotto's caliber. I think he pretty much proved that he can handle a WW.

                  If you seriously think Cotto coming in at 147 would have made a difference then I don't know what to tell you...

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                  • alembic
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                    #109
                    I don't think Miguel is done even though he's been through more wars with quality opponents than most elite fighters. But adjustments are needed.

                    I don't like the way he fades in the later rounds. Something's not quite right in the prep work. While some fighters like Manny can sustain full-bore effort over 12 rounds, others have stamina issues; and Cotto's camp has to resolve this shortcoming because when their fighter is unable to dominate or put away an opponent early, there's essentially no plan B.

                    What's clear to me is that Cotto hasn't evolved over the years. He brings the same skill set, the same weaknesses. To me, this makes him an exciting athlete; and I absolutely love his warrior spirit. But at championship level fights, these flaws are are going to be exploited. Unless the fighter himself is ready to acknowledge this, he won't make the decisions to implement the necessary changes.

                    Cotto needs a fresh face in his corner, not a family member or a friend of a family. Someone who will insist on investing time on correcting flaws, not just maintaining current weapons. Defensive skills, distance management, intelligent aggression (like the first round of the Pac fight); these are some areas that could benefit from improvement IMO.

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                    • Gaby
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by freedom213
                      What you and many others should take into account is that while Cotto needs to get a new team and correct/improve on many aspects of his game these weaknesses have been uncovered while fighting nothing but the best. Other fighters who have ben criticized on this level are? Not one boxer, because no one has fought the caliber of opponents recently that Cotto has. I remember when people said similiar things about Mosely after his losses to Winky. If Cotto fights on he needs to make a change but berating him in the context of the PAc fight is ridiculous. Who else could do the things that Pac did that night? No one in boxing can throw punches with power and speed form those crazy angles and at that pace. 99% of conversations regarding Cotto's loss should lead back to how damn good Pac is, how in the hell is he punching so hard while retaining his speed and more impressive his movement and stamina at this weight is incredible.
                      You have a good point, props to Pacquiao. It would have been really hard to watch Cotto lose to a no-name boxer. We would've had alot more questions then than now. That would have really thrown up a red flag!

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