Why did it seem like by round 4, Cotto had absolutely nothing?

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  • -Antonio-
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    #41
    I noticed it in round 5. The kd ****ed him up bad. He was hurt. He landed good shots in the 4th and even some of the 5th I thought moving. Then 6-12 he was done.

    Against Judah where he was was still fresh late I think he was more game physically. But that fight and Mosley, Margarito, Clottey may have lessened his durability. Manny's speed really has to make you guess too which throws steam off your punches anyway.

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    • -Antonio-
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      #42
      Originally posted by Kobe Bryant
      Cotto I believe was done mentally after the first knockdown. After that it was a matter of time to me. It was crazy how Manny pretty much man handled him.

      Back to the topic though. Yeah he had no pop after a while. And I think it's because he was buzzed from the early knock downs. Those took a lot out of him.
      I don't think he was done mentally at all. He came back and fought well in the 4th. The second kd was bad and that one finished him.

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      • Dknight
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        #43
        Originally posted by shobox
        cotto thought he could trade with pac and not get hurt but he must have been surprised at pac's power after the 2nd knockdown . That shot probably took some of the fight out of him
        Yup, it was the 2nd knockdown that did it. I don't count the 1st one because it seemed more like a slip/balance thing. Cotto was coming up to win the 4th round until he took was left hook and was knockdown. He was visibly hurt at that moment.

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        • Hopkiller
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          #44
          Originally posted by Check
          The knockdown in the second was the match changer. That shot that Miguel didn't see really is the definition that one punch can change a fight. That shot would of kayoed most fighters btw.
          I think it was the second knockdown that really hurt him. The first one made him waste more energy because he tried to knock pac down to even things, but all that energy made him fatigue faster. He was bound to fade, but he had to save his energy and he had to avoid getting in a slug fest with pacquiao that where pacquiao starts hitting the punches you don't see coming.
          You can't slug it out. cotto was impressive in the first round, but he couldn't keep it up. and the key was he couldn't hurt Manny while he Mannys punches were hurting him more than Mosleys. I think he can't hold the same punishment anymore.

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          • mnbv
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            #45
            Originally posted by benray4fun
            I agree with this poster, no power in cotto's punch n it's just not like him to lose strength so early in the fight... Too much weight loss?... poisoned?... it is vegas n they will rig anything for a dollar unfortunately.
            ******! stop this ****!

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            • El Angel
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              #46
              It was after round 5 he lost it. I had him winning round 5 and then in 6 he had nothing left.

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              • !! Shawn
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                #47
                Originally posted by Silencers
                Personally I thought it was after round 5, near the end of round 5 Pacquiao landed a huge body shot that had Cotto dropping his hands and moving backwards, after that Cotto just started to retreat and looked like he was running on empty. He was having a pretty good round 5 up to that point too. And I think it was the 6th round when I first noticed Cotto start to breathe through his mouth.
                I think after the real knock down, Cotto fell apart mentally. He was scared to trade, scared to let his hands go, scared to come forward.

                Before that point he was clearly in control of the fight, and up the the point before the knockdown, it looked like Pacman was going to get stopped. He was getting roughed up pretty good, and looked like he had no answers, but as soon as the knockdown, things pretty much turned around 100%

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                • mnbv
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Maxshayne
                  Cotto is past it.Why can`t ya`ll realize this?

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                  • Aracibo04
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SekondzOut
                    whatever Cotto had left after the Marg and Clottey fights.....Pac beat it out of him when he dropped him the second time!!......Cotto used to be a beast at once.....last night he was reduced to being a helpless vulnerable lil' puppy!!......dam!!
                    I used to be one of those laughed at the thought of cotto being a shot fighter.. but he is, his weakness is how easily now his nose gets broken so bad that he bleeds profusely.

                    I find it amazing that no one is this site saw cotto spitting blood out of his mouth by the sixth round AT LEAST. He might have been doing it earlier..

                    people talk about scarring of the eyes brows etc.. scars cuts easely again.. guess what same thing with a broken nose like the one cotto suffered against margarito. Didn't anyone notice the big ass bugger of blood that came out of cotto's nose at the end of the 9th or 10th round.

                    any high volume puncher with decent power can take cotto out now..the only reason why clotty did not do the same is because he is a very low volume puncher... His bleeding broken nose is why cotto's punches lost pop and was not willing to trade with many anymore. IMO cotto is a shot fighter..and In my opinon should really start making plans for an exit from the ring.

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                    • Boxingwizard
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by !! Shawn
                      I think after the real knock down, Cotto fell apart mentally. He was scared to trade, scared to let his hands go, scared to come forward.

                      Before that point he was clearly in control of the fight, and up the the point before the knockdown, it looked like Pacman was going to get stopped. He was getting roughed up pretty good, and looked like he had no answers, but as soon as the knockdown, things pretty much turned around 100%
                      I think a lot of had to do with poor preparation from Cotto's team, and as much some people don't want to admit, Cotto could of used Evangalista in his camp. He was also getting poor advice.

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