Roy Jones in the heavyweight division?

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  • Kid Achilles
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    #11
    He may have had success against other heavyweights but that's all speculation. The weight loss could have contributed to his knockout losses but again, speculation.

    Most of the evidence about Roy Jones (his tiny frame, small head, the knockout losses ocurring once he slowed down and was catching punches that never would have hit him 8 years ago) suggest a speedy, evasive fighter with great athleticism who was able to hide a less than solid chin from larger, stronger opponents. That is, until he slowed down.

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    • jack_the_rippuh
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      #12
      Alot of people talk about the weight-loss being an issue, I believe that also. But my Uncle thinks that the shots Ruiz caught him with in that fight did more long-term damage than people think. Could this be a possibility? I haven't seen the fight, so I'm neutral on this one..

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        #13
        Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
        Alot of people talk about the weight-loss being an issue, I believe that also. But my Uncle thinks that the shots Ruiz caught him with in that fight did more long-term damage than people think. Could this be a possibility? I haven't seen the fight, so I'm neutral on this one..
        That's an interesting point, Ruiz caught Roy with a big right hand in round 1, Roy was stopped in his tracks for a split second, then came back firing combos....I think the 24 lbs of muscle that Roy had to shed for the Tarver fight did more than Ruiz' punches though

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        • Kid Achilles
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          It was a decent right hand, nothing stellar. Certainly wasn't one of Ruiz's hardest shots he's thrown in his career but maybe the best he managed to land during that fight. I doubt it had any lasting effect. Overall Ruiz barely touched Roy, except for the few times he had him backed into the ropes and that first round shot.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            It was a decent right hand, nothing stellar. Certainly wasn't one of Ruiz's hardest shots he's thrown in his career but maybe the best he managed to land during that fight. I doubt it had any lasting effect. Overall Ruiz barely touched Roy, except for the few times he had him backed into the ropes and that first round shot.
            Good point, the big right hand only seemed big, relative to all of Ruiz' missed shots for the remaining 11 rounds....

            Roy shoulda just came down to 190-200 and fought Big Truck, rather than going all the way back to 175 for Tarver

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            • The Fix
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              roy couldnt have beaten the bigs in the division like the klits or lewis but i could see him beating byrd, holy, oquendo, and tyson. i say he could beat tyson cause he would just have to keep his defence up for 4-5 rounds and then finish tyson off in the late rounds like 10-12.

              btw i believe at the weigh in roy jones weighed in at around 193 and gained some weight before the fight to be around 200.

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              • Kimmy
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                #17
                Originally posted by The Fix
                roy couldnt have beaten the bigs in the division like the klits or lewis but i could see him beating byrd, holy, oquendo, and tyson. i say he could beat tyson cause he would just have to keep his defence up for 4-5 rounds and then finish tyson off in the late rounds like 10-12.

                btw i believe at the weigh in roy jones weighed in at around 193 and gained some weight before the fight to be around 200.
                Roy SHOULD have stayed at heavyweight. He should have picked a fight with an Oquendo or Kirk Johnson ( considering Johnson of late you`d have picked him to win ) then gone in with a lewis or a Klitscko. Sure i`d hve picked him to lose, but why not? He`d have given it a go and got much better money than the two light hvy losses to Tarver and Johnson! And who`d have knocked Jones for losing to Klit or Lewis? No one! And if Lewis had turned up in bad shape and Jones had caught him early, who knows....Jones was foolish to return to Light heavy. he had nothing to lose at heavyweight, even if he lost!

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                • Kid Achilles
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                  #18
                  "Jones was foolish to return to Light heavy. he had nothing to lose at heavyweight, even if he lost!"

                  Except his brain cells and possibly his life.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    "Jones was foolish to return to Light heavy. he had nothing to lose at heavyweight, even if he lost!"

                    Except his brain cells and possibly his life.
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                    They said that before the Ruiz fight! Jones would have probably been KO`ed but not as badly as if he had been weight drained and punished for 9 rounds ala Johnson!

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                    • The Fix
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                      "Jones was foolish to return to Light heavy. he had nothing to lose at heavyweight, even if he lost!"

                      Except his brain cells and possibly his life.
                      no maybe not, roy was always had a high boxing iq and would have probably taken a knee before he let anything happen to him.
                      he always thinks about his kids so i dont think he would take a risk of getting pummeled when he could take a knee.

                      btw remember when jones was ko'd by tarver and then showed up for the after party, that was pretty bold if you ask me

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