Who is the best Light Heavyweight in the world?

[IMDAZED]

that's a lie, he's forced to punch more when countering, if not he'l stare you down for about half an hour, throw a jab and stare you down again, when you throw one punch, he moves, if you throw a combo he covers up

Yep, I think that sounds closer to how he fights. But I've seen him pretty aggressive as well. I think the bottom line is that workrate won't decide this fight. It will be fought at the pace of a chess match.

[SplitSecond]

Not once have I implied Hopkins is a cash cow but he's a bigger draw than Dawson and the fight was for the Ring title. Who had Dawson beat at that point? A struggling with weight Adamek....Harding ()? He went on to have a close fight with Johnson in a fight most people thought he lost while Calzaghe beat the recognised best fighter at 175.....I think the right choice was made.

adamek was strugling to make weight? any proof?
and many more people thought calzaghe lost to hopkins, so there you go

[THE REED]

Not once have I implied Hopkins is a cash cow but he's a bigger draw than Dawson and the fight was for the Ring title. Who had Dawson beat at that point? A struggling with weight Adamek....Harding ()? He went on to have a close fight with Johnson in a fight most people thought he lost while Calzaghe beat the recognised best fighter at 175.....I think the right choice was made.

Fighting Chad Dawson or Adamek isn't about the money... neither of those fights are about the money, that's about the legacy. Getting another LHW title against a young fresh unbeaten champion, or the CW champion.

I don't really buy not fighting Dawson because he isn't a draw, that's not the reason the fight shouldn't happen. Anyways Bernard will get his payday against a shot Roy Jones, then he can maybe fight for Dawsons title.

[dans]

that's a lie, he's forced to punch more when countering, if not he'l stare you down for about half an hour, throw a jab and stare you down again, when you throw one punch, he moves, if you throw a combo he covers up

I disagree. Watch Dawson-Tarver 1. Dawson was allowed to lead all night and he was throwing amazing combinations all night.

[Vivid Intent]

Yeah, I think you're right. At that point, it made no sense for him to fight Dawson. But he certainly had the opportunity to this year and didn't even entertain the conversation. Instead he's fighting Roy Jones. Sheesh.

I would have preferred to see him fight Dawson too...I didn't mind him taking the Jones fight because he made 10m and big paydays eluded him throughout his career but he should have fought Dawson before retiring.

[THE REED]

I didn't understand that sentence.

Calzaghe and Hopkins were ranked above Chad, because they beat him.

Calzaghe and Hopkins arent ranked ahead of Dawson because they "hypothetically" beat him.

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[dans]

Fighting Chad Dawson or Adamek isn't about the money... neither of those fights are about the money, that's about the legacy. Getting another LHW title against a young fresh unbeaten champion, or the CW champion.

I don't really buy not fighting Dawson because he isn't a draw, that's not the reason the fight shouldn't happen. Anyways Bernard will get his payday against a shot Roy Jones, then he can maybe fight for Dawsons title.

Good post reed

It shouldn't all be about the money.

[IMDAZED]

I would have preferred to see him fight Dawson too...I didn't mind him taking the Jones fight because he made 10m and big paydays eluded him throughout his career but he should have fought Dawson before retiring.

Yep. Neither Calzaghe nor Hopkins were interested. None of them should be rewarded an imaginary win against him. There's no evidence to suggest it would be a foregone conclusion. In fact, I'd bet that a prime Dawson would've been as difficult as any of their toughest bouts.

[Vivid Intent]

adamek was strugling to make weight? any proof?
and many more people thought calzaghe lost to hopkins, so there you go

Proof? You ever heard of google?

And no, a lot more people had Calzaghe beating Hopkins.

Fighting Chad Dawson or Adamek isn't about the money... neither of those fights are about the money, that's about the legacy. Getting another LHW title against a young fresh unbeaten champion, or the CW champion.

I don't really buy not fighting Dawson because he isn't a draw, that's not the reason the fight shouldn't happen. Anyways Bernard will get his payday against a shot Roy Jones, then he can maybe fight for Dawsons title.

I'm talking about at the stage he fought Hopkins. He should have fought Dawson before he retired but it wasn't to be...if he did fight Dawson and retire people would be saying he ducked the Hopkins rematch. He said after Kessler he was only fighting 2 more fights and then retiring...he beat the best at 175 and then retired on a big payday...I would rather him fight Dawson but that's just the way it goes...

[THE REED]

Proof? You ever heard of google?

And no, a lot more people had Calzaghe beating Hopkins.



I'm talking about at the stage he fought Hopkins. He should have fought Dawson before he retired but it wasn't to be...if he did fight Dawson and retire people would be saying he ducked the Hopkins rematch. He said after Kessler he was only fighting 2 more fights and then retiring...he beat the best at 175 and then retired on a big payday...I would rather him fight Dawson but that's just the way it goes...

Are you talking about Calzaghe fighting Dawson? I was talking about Bernard fighting Dawson.