Tired of hearing Manny was a 106 pounder

[jrosales13]

if cotto start his professional boxing career at the age of 16 i don't even think he could become what he is today, if his fighting professional at age 16 before he could reach the age of 28 he will be like 20 losses in his record today.

Well I don't know about the losses part. But, he would of has some losses in his record. If you start fighting at age 16 there is a good chance you will suffer a loss early. Those are learning experiences you are a kid fighting amongst men.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

Look at all the people trying to discredit a 15 year old turning professional.

"well so & so was 100lbs or 98lbs when the were 8 years old or 10 years old"


Did they turn professional & start fighting men for a living when they weighed that much?

I guess not, but lets **** on the kid who turned pro at 16 weighing less than 100lbs & fight grown men for money in order to survive & have something to eat.


Yeah lets do that.

[El Jesus]

Look at all the people trying to discredit a 15 year old turning professional.

"well so & so was 100lbs or 98lbs when the were 8 years old or 10 years old"


Did they turn professional & start fighting men for a living when they weighed that much?

I guess not, but lets **** on the kid who turned pro at 16 weighing less than 100lbs & fight grown men for money in order to survive & have something to eat.


Yeah lets do that.

The law prevents US youth from turning pro, this is what renders this argument so rediculous, pac turned pro as a matter of circumstance and while he should be championed for it, other fighters who come out of the amatuer corps shouldnt be condemned due to circumstance.

[baracuda]

The law prevents US youth from turning pro, this is what renders this argument so rediculous, pac turned pro as a matter of circumstance and while he should be championed for it, other fighters who come out of the amatuer corps shouldnt be condemned due to circumstance.

how about pac winning a wbc title at 112 at 19 years old all the way to jww?....thats 8 weightclasses total, name a fighter whos done that.....lol

[Pullcounter]

The law prevents US youth from turning pro, this is what renders this argument so rediculous, pac turned pro as a matter of circumstance and while he should be championed for it, other fighters who come out of the amatuer corps shouldnt be condemned due to circumstance.

No one is condemning fighters who come out of the amatuer corps... but people sure are not giving pac credit for boxing professionally @ 106 lbs and then moving up as high as 147 lbs sucessfully

[El Jesus]

how about pac winning a wbc title at 112 at 19 years old all the way to jww?....thats 8 weightclasses total, name a fighter whos done that.....lol

First of all im not here to bash pac for what hes accomplished, second of all, the "8" weight class thing has its pros and cons, since there is 112/115/118 "weight class" come on. The fact is, again, if you are going to merit his wins at those lower weights, you also have to factor in the losses. For me personally, i feel pac became a full grown man when he fought at 122 and i think his one true loss came at the hands of eric morales, and i also felt he lost against marquez in the second fight. Regardless, the fact remains that at 106 pac was not a full grown man, by the time he was at 122, i feel he was, therefore i dont really count those 2 losses he had at those lower weights to mean much, but i also dont put an enourmous amount of stock in the titles neither.

i know nothing i say will change youre opinion since you arent exactly one to factor in more than youre own viewpoint but whatever.

[I am JUGGERNAUT]

Manny was 106 pounder.

You are jealous on PACQUIAO s success.

[baracuda]

First of all im not here to bash pac for what hes accomplished, second of all, the "8" weight class thing has its pros and cons, since there is 112/115/118 "weight class" come on. The fact is, again, if you are going to merit his wins at those lower weights, you also have to factor in the losses. For me personally, i feel pac became a full grown man when he fought at 122 and i think his one true loss came at the hands of eric morales, and i also felt he lost against marquez in the second fight. Regardless, the fact remains that at 106 pac was not a full grown man, by the time he was at 122, i feel he was, therefore i dont really count those 2 losses he had at those lower weights to mean much, but i also dont put an enourmous amount of stock in the titles neither.

i know nothing i say will change youre opinion since you arent exactly one to factor in more than youre own viewpoint but whatever.

damn...i only asked you one question and you gave me a paragraph.....you know why?.......coz you cant name one.....only pac.....yet you dont wanna admit to it...lol...

[El Jesus]

No one is condemning fighters who come out of the amatuer corps... but people sure are not giving pac credit for boxing professionally @ 106 lbs and then moving up as high as 147 lbs sucessfully

id say he gets plenty of credit, from the media and the hundreds of the supporters he has on this board. But i do feel there is an overblown emphasis on it because there is more than one factor as to why it happened, its not as if he was 23 and started at 106, most of it being he barely edged puberty when he turned pro, whereas here in the united states and its territories, thats not really possible. Its a fantastic achievement, but the reality is, his career really jumpstarted when he stopped barrera.

I think pac gets alot of credit, hes on the cover of time magazine for christ sake, hes the number one fighter p4p. What more do you want to give him? This board gets jacked up with topics on him every single day reflecting on his accomplishments. The idea he doesnt get "enough" credit..well whatever.

[Pullcounter]

id say he gets plenty of credit, from the media and the hundreds of the supporters he has on this board. But i do feel there is an overblown emphasis on it because there is more than one factor as to why it happened, its not as if he was 23 and started at 106, most of it being he barely edged puberty when he turned pro, whereas here in the united states and its territories, thats not really possible. Its a fantastic achievement, but the reality is, his career really jumpstarted when he stopped barrera.

I think pac gets alot of credit, hes on the cover of time magazine for christ sake, hes the number one fighter p4p. What more do you want to give him? This board gets jacked up with topics on him every single day reflecting on his accomplishments. The idea he doesnt get "enough" credit..well whatever.

There u go discrediting pac on being the only 106 lber to move all the way up 2 147 lbs successfully. Its not like pac was @ WW 5 years ago... he just recently got there. By any standard both feats are impressive.