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  • bluetuazon
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    #41
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    First, lets start with Cotto defense. I love how you mention he gets cut, either by headbutt or punches. Putting idiotic comments like getting cut by a headbutt is the worst argument you could have used as your "defense." Everyone gets cut by headbutts at some point, its not something anyone can help. Manny's been cut by a headbutt, so I guess we can put that he's prone to being cut as well? Or, are you saying that Manny should headbutt in order to open a cut? I'm not saying soft skin doesn't matter when comparing fighters, but using headbutts as an excuse for it... come on man. The last time Cotto was cut by a punch (not counting Marg's brick hands) was in the Judah fight. Aside from there the only times he's been busted open are by headbutts, the soft skin angle doesn't work on Cotto, sorry.

    As for Manny's defense... just because Manny didn't get touched by an old ass DLH doesn't mean ****. But guess what... HE WAS hit by an old ass DLH, and he caught Manny with a flush body shot which backed Manny onto the ropes and allowed DLH to land 3 straight left hooks. Oscar doesn't even know how to cut off the ring and he was still able to Manny on the ropes. Then we have Hatton who is ****, but he had NO problems getting to Manny he was all over him. Except... Manny fought a guy who actually has even worse defense than him and when you put an offensive wizard like Manny into the ring with a guy who uses his chin as his guard of course he's going to be laid out.

    You are a typical Pacfan though and nothing I'm going to tell you is going to sink because you think Manny is God. I'm also 99% sure you never saw any of Manny's fights with Marquez, as you'd see exactly what I'm talking about in which Manny has no defense. If Manny is backed up the very first thing he does is cover is head, not with his gloves but with his elbows. He leaves his entire lower body exposed, that is not good defense. Manny also doesn't get hit because his offensive agility and in/out movement is so solid. Essentially his offense is his defense, which is great I'm taking nothing away from him whatsoever, but backing up on the DEFENSIVE Manny is NOT Floyd, nowhere near it. Cotto's defense isn't superb, but it isn't bad either. Watch the Clottey fight again, Cotto landed about 25% or so of his punches on Clottey and up until the cut Clottey's connect percentage was the same maybe a percentage or two higher. Same with the Mosley fight, Cotto's connect percentage was roughly the same as Mosley's. Cotto gets hit with some hard shots, but so does Manny when he faces a high quality opponent, none of which the last three were.
    and i have 9k to spare....u wanna bet on it??

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    • boricuarn
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      #42
      Three smart prognostic with only one moron. Sorry, but he chosen to be one of them. Angelo Dundee and Ronnie Shields were the smarter opinion. Simple like this, my prediction for this fight will be Miguel Angel Cotto by KO in 6-8 rounds. Any Many Pacquiao cheerleaders would like to bet 1,000 points against me? In Nov 14 I want to bet all my points, so I can double my amount.

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      • Beater_of_ass
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        #43
        Originally posted by bluetuazon
        dude, i understand ur side of the coin...but i have a different take on it...and calling my response idiotic is a bit too much...if i dont agree with you with most of the things u post then im idiotic??...to each his own...and im not a typical pacfan...i love boxers who challenges himself...i both love cotto and pac but i only have to choose one....and i choose pac...ive watched the marq/pac 1 and 2 more than a couple of times...marq gave pac hell and that was a lesson for pac...lets see if he corrected his mistakes already...manny is not my god....dude think first before u write something that will hurt a person...im catholic...and pac is not my god...i dont know if u believe in god...but i doesnt bother me if u do or u dont...i simply dont care...but just to be clear...pac is no god....i just happen to like it when he fights...i get my moneys worth...
        i may not be a boxing expert like YOU or the other guys who posts here like they are some kind of so called GURUs who is trying to dissect a fighter to the core but i understand the sport fair enough for me to give my take on things...its a matter of respect....if u dont like it..i dont lose sleep over it....u can have all the knowledge about boxing...i hope u make it to HBO or ESPN....lol
        I'm not trying to insult you, but you can't say things like he's prone to being cut because of headbutts. Yes, it does happen in fights but saying he's soft skinned because he gets cut on a clash of heads, its a useless argument to me, it bears no weight on the skill, mentality or toughness of a fighter. Secondly, you're taking me a bit too serious when I say that you think Paq is God... did you really think I meant that literally, come on dude, lol. I also respect your take on Pac being able to win the fight, I leaning with Cotto but only slightly about 55/45 split. There's a lot of questions hanging over both fighters heads. As for the bet, you can have my points because to me its just numbers. If your man wins, congratulations I'm not going to be upset or butt hurt about it, the best man won.

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