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  • djsygo
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    #11
    Naz made some good points here!!

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    • edgarg
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      #12
      I've noticed that those in the know, with hands-on pro boxing experience at a high level, seem to be nearly all chosing Cotto to win.

      Yet, I hear that the betting is on Manny P. to win......

      So is this an enigma wrapped up in a mystery, or what??

      Another thing I notice is that many posters mention that Manny P was originally 106 lbs. Weeeelllll...... if he was 106, he certainly wasn't 5' 6 1/2 "

      Plainly, what people ignore is that when he was 106, he was 15 years old, and, like any kid, was still growing, which can be untuil about age 25.

      So today we arrive at the point where he is, say, 140-145 lbs, and has already reached his full height. Obviously his frame-or skeleton- can support the extra muscle mass.

      So, although he's smaller, he's not that much smaller than Cotto, who is 5' 7".

      The difference is that Cotto is more strongly built, and his skeleton can support a higher weight than Manny. With Manny, over a certain weight, becomes "counter-productive" soi he has to be very carefully brought along by someone who is a real expert in building bodies for maximum strength and speed, at a specific weight. Not an easy thing to do.....

      Tomorrow night we'll see..........

      All very normal

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      • Chuckguy
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        #13
        What I found very interesting is that none of them said that because manny has a more experiences corner he should win.
        Its good to hear from real knowledgable men in the game. They all had great points
        this is a great find BPP!

        If Cotto can tek mannys pounches
        hahha
        then manny has no chance

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        • fightingfigs
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          #14
          Originally posted by CottoKOsPacman
          i see more & more jumping on my cotto by late KO bandwagon lol i guess reality is starting 2 set in
          "dallas"
          LOL None of them mentioned manny pacquiaos speed as a major advantage to win the fight like the *******s have been. AGAIN REAL RECOGNOZE REAL. These guys know the game and theyre picking on the side of the bigger stronger more polished Cotto

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          • zeidrich
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            #15
            the only one that i know that change his prediction is DLH.... everybody has given their predictions already from nacho to toney.....

            i hope atlas change his predictions too, like dlh , he sucks at predicting

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            • S A M U R A I
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              #16
              Originally posted by edgarg
              Tomorrow night we'll see..........
              Good luck on that one, Edgar.



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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by trainhard_187
                Im totally agreeing with Naz on this one. Pacs little size fools alot of people in thinking he is still that little 106lb fighter. I mean come on folks, One punch knocks out Hatton cold. Who has done that before? Delaquitter claims Pac dont punch hard, then why did he quit. Delaquitter never quit when Mosley or all those other top dogs fought him..

                Naz gives a GOOD analysis of Pac being small but deadly as Tyson was short but deadly..
                Naz don't know what he's talking about. Pac is too small. you will see it in this fight.

                Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                I think that all the Pros are as conflicted as the forum on how this fight is going to be. More evidence that we're in for a historical fight.
                its size vs. speed.... and usually the good big man beats the good little man.

                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                LAS VEGAS - The late great boxing trainer Eddie Futch, who counted six world heavyweight champions as his pupils, always said a fighter's corner played an essential role in a competitive fight's outcome. With stakes high for the Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto fight on Saturday, November 14 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena live on HBO Pay-Per-View®, today's most decorated trainers give their insight into the match-up and whether or not the experienced corner of Manny Pacquiao, with esteemed trainer Freddie Roach, will out-perform the lesser known Cotto corner lead by Joe Santiago. Hear from the experts themselves as they breakdown and predict the outcome of this tremendous fight. [details]
                all these guy kinda leaning towards cotto... except ****m (who doesn't think pac is small). why? becuase cotto has no excuse losing to a former 106 lber.

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                • mellow_mood
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  LAS VEGAS - The late great boxing trainer Eddie Futch, who counted six world heavyweight champions as his pupils, always said a fighter's corner played an essential role in a competitive fight's outcome. With stakes high for the Manny Pacquiao vs Miguel Cotto fight on Saturday, November 14 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena live on HBO Pay-Per-View®, today's most decorated trainers give their insight into the match-up and whether or not the experienced corner of Manny Pacquiao, with esteemed trainer Freddie Roach, will out-perform the lesser known Cotto corner lead by Joe Santiago. Hear from the experts themselves as they breakdown and predict the outcome of this tremendous fight. [details]

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                  • SceneSpectator!
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    Naz don't know what he's talking about. Pac is too small. you will see it in this fight.


                    its size vs. speed.... and usually the good big man beats the good little man.



                    all these guy kinda leaning towards cotto... except ****m (who doesn't think pac is small). why? becuase cotto has no excuse losing to a former 106 lber.
                    Pac is not so small as many thinks, and therefore not a so much advantage for Cotto. Other advantages going to Pacman and I bet my 400K points to yours, Pac will win this fight! PM me if you are interested to this fantasy betting!

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Elotero
                      Incoherent. Nonsensical. Fanboyism.

                      Very VERY weak argument for either fighter.

                      Exactly the type of fan who likes to talk boxing but doesn't know **** about it.

                      Face it boy, you dont understand what brother Naz is saying. Im not even a Pac nuthugger but Naz makes his point clear for his choice. Unlike your garbled child-like ramblings.
                      Incoherent???
                      So,bring up some arguments instead of playin the"you don't know **** about boxing" card.You don't even know me.

                      I'm not talkin about Naz's pick,he can pick who the **** he wants.

                      Naz is biased when it comes about Manny,especially as Shane's trainer,that's why he plays the "Manny isn't small" card.
                      His dude JD Jackson claimed"Manny ducks black fighters".
                      I can't stand the race card and the"Manny isn't a small fighter"card this crew is playin,they are direspectin a great.
                      It's pure BS.

                      What is incoherent in my comment??

                      That Campbell is unworthy to fight Manny??OBVIOUS.

                      I disagree with Richardson SIMPLY because he was fightin 9 divisions lower than now in the past.SO,Manny has a flyweight,batamweight frame.
                      ONCE AGAIN,OBVIOUS POINT.


                      Baby crying fool bringing no arguments,that's what you are!

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