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  • #31
    Originally posted by chicano79us View Post
    Cloud is overrated. Besides, Dawson is fighting them at 168. Its not like they have to climb 10+ pounds to face him.
    If you give Dawson a pass for not fighting Cloud, then why do you always bash Juan Ma for not fighting Cab? That's double standards bro.

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    • #32
      It's about time Jones traveled outside the US. When he was in his prime he sure as hell didn't want to go to Germany and fight the only other 175 lb fighter worth fighting at the time.

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      • #33
        At least Tunney is an honest Hopkins hater, and doesn't give other fighters a pass for the same thing that Hopkins does. That gets props from me.

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        • #34
          Because Jones is making 3 million for fighting Danny Green. Hopkins is making nothing

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Iceta View Post
            If you give Dawson a pass for not fighting Cloud, then why do you always bash Juan Ma for not fighting Cab? That's double standards bro.
            Because Caballero has beaten top contenders in his division, Cloud has beat Woods....the same Woods Tarver dominated.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
              Because Jones is making 3 million for fighting Danny Green. Hopkins is making nothing
              Perhaps if he would have fought Cloud, B-Hop would receive a good payday. He's a partner in Golden Boy Promotions himself, he could make a big fight if he wanted to.

              Mismatches don't usually bring a lot of fan interest.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                Because Caballero has beaten top contenders in his division, Cloud has beat Woods....the same Woods Tarver dominated.
                Cloud is way better on a skill level and more durable than Cab even though it's hard to compare 122 lbers to 175 lbers. Lol. Why is it that Hopkins is the only one who gets bashed for fighting smaller guys? Cotto is doing it, Mayweather is doing it, Pavlik was gonna do it, and now Paul Williams is doing it (even though he doesn't have much of a choice). And like Chicano mentioned, Dawson is willing to drop the weight to participate in the tourney. It just looks weak to me when there is a young contender in his division with over a 90% KO ratio. And people are totally writing off Johnson in the rematch when he could very well win it even though Dawson is the favorite.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Carnivore View Post
                  Perhaps if he would have fought Cloud, B-Hop would receive a good payday. He's a partner in Golden Boy Promotions himself, he could make a big fight if he wanted to.

                  Mismatches don't usually bring a lot of fan interest.
                  No. He is literally making nothing. He's donating his entire purse to charity. If Jones wanted to donate a purse to charity, he definitely wouldn't be fighting Danny Green.


                  Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                  Cloud is way better on a skill level and more durable than Cab even though it's hard to compare 122 lbers to 175 lbers. Lol. Why is it that Hopkins is the only one who gets bashed for fighting smaller guys? Cotto is doing it, Mayweather is doing it, Pavlik was gonna do it, and now Paul Williams is doing it (even though he doesn't have much of a choice). And like Chicano mentioned, Dawson is willing to drop the weight to participate in the tourney. It just looks weak to me when there is a young contender in his division with over a 90% KO ratio. And people are totally writing off Johnson in the rematch when he could very well win it even though Dawson is the favorite.
                  Way better skill level then caballero?????? Are you joking? Cloud has terrible defense and doesn't have that good of punching technique.

                  Also normally all the guys you listed are facing great competition. They are smaller fighters they are fighting, but they make up for it in skill and it makes it a great fight. The only unappealing fight was JMM-Mayweather was because that was too big of a jump in weight and JMM never proved himself in that weight class either.

                  Pacquiao, Trinidad, and others have proved themselves at that weight class save for Martinez, but Martinez isn't making as big of a jump as JMM did.

                  Oh and Kessler and Abraham, though smaller, are a lot better then Cloud is. And proven. If Dawson can make 168 to fight them, he should. They are better challenges then Cloud, who you are massively overrating.

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                  • #39
                    Danny Green? lol...

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                    • #40
                      I have to agree with the TS, Jones is fighting a former WBA 175 Champion who was a great amature in Green. Green is nothing special, but still a very dangerous fighter who Jones is fighting on his home turf in Aussie.

                      Hopkins is fighting a blown up Middleweight, who isnt even in the top 10 Middelweights and has been defeated by the likes of journymen Sam Reese(18-12), and a washed up Bronco Mckart, in Hopkins hometown.

                      Hopkins should of fought someone more dangerous who will give him more of a challage, I would of liked him to fight Sakio Bika.

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