Jack Mosley Talks Pacquiao-Cotto; Floyd Mayweather Jr

[jrosales13]

At 130, Pac fougtht Eric Morales but didnt' try to Joan Guzman or a third fight with JMM);

At the time 130 the top 3 guys were Morales, Barrera, and JMM. Pac fought all of them... Joan Guzman was ranked 4 and Humberto Soto was ranked 5...

To answer your question, Pac has ducked the best opposition. Mayweather hasn't.

Floyd at 130 never fought Freitas, Casamayor, at 135 Floyd never fought Johnston, Spadafora, Dorin, at 140 Floyd never fought Harris, Witter, at 147 Floyd never fought Margarito. And, now is does not seem to interested in fight Shane, or P-Will, at 154 Floyd never fought Forrest, Winky, and Spinks...

All this fighters wanted and was willing to fight Floyd. But, they never materialized... Why???

[MASSMAN]

Pacman wont fight Floyd!

I have a feeling that Pacman will treat Floyd the same way Floyd is treating Sugar Shane. Pacman will want an easier opponent after his fight with Cotto..trust me. The only reason why Pacman is fighting Cotto is because he had an easy time with Hatton. His fight with Cotto will not be a walk in the park and win or lose, Arum will either offer a rematch or Pacman will fight a smaller fighter. Floyd will be without a serious credible opponent if the winner of the Pacman/Cotto fight does not fight him. This is whats wrong with todays boxing.

[defcon215]

David Diaz was Pac first fight at 135. Which was what like his 8th division? David Diaz was undefeated at 135 and was more of champion than what Zab Judah was. But, fine you can make your point. I will give you Casamayor, Campbell, and JMM 3. However, he didn't duck Juan Diaz. Diaz was coming off a really good ass whooping on the hands of Campbell. There was no reason to fight Diaz. That would of been like when Floyd fought Corley who was coming off a loss... That would of proved nothing...



Why did he fight Ndou and Sosa instead of Johnston and Spadafora? Why did he fight Bruseles instead of Harris? Why did he fight Mitchell or Judah instead of Margarito? Why did he fight JMM instead of any other top 20 real WWs out there?

he fought brussels instead of harris because he was in a title eliminator for gatti belt

he fought mitchell to get a fight in a welterweight because that was his first fight at the divison he fought judah because at the time they signed the contract judah was the undisputed champion and all judah had to do was beat baldimir but judah didnt but floyd went on with the fight anyway he could have backed out...

he then would beat baldimir for the lineal welterweight title.. he was going to fight magarito (i have an article on it if ya want me to prove it) but the date they gave floyd would be give him four months in between his last one he ask to to give a date a couple months later they said no then floyd said fine ill fight magarito for 8 mill on 4 months rest but they would have to guarantee him a lucrative bout with then cash cow miguel cotto they said they can only offer him 7 million so he turned it down all together

[Pullcounter]

as i read your claim that mosley landed more shots than cotto that may be the case doesnt equate to him winning the fight although mosley landed power shots cotto walked through those punches and countered beautifully where as cotto through shots he backed mosley up he controlled the ring and had mosley uncomfortable through out the fight and was more busy in the last half of rds judges tend to forget what a fighter does in the beginning of the rd but the remember the middle-end of the rd and i think cotto for the most part look better towards the middle end of each rd than mosley

do you know what the primary criteria for judging a round is?

clean effective punching.

/end argument.

[Story]

do you know what the primary criteria for judging a round is?

clean effective punching.

/end argument.

Cotto's punches were clearly more effective.
Like he said, Cotto was looking better in the fight.
More punches does not guarantee you a win, you should know that.

[jrosales13]

he fought brussels instead of harris because he was in a title eliminator for gatti belt

He was Harris #1 contender. He could of fought Harris and beat Harris and would of won the belt. Which then he could of fought Gatti in a unification fight. And, probably would of been more money for both. But, Harris was tougher opponent than Bruseles. So why risk it right?

he fought mitchell to get a fight in a welterweight because that was his first fight at the divison

He could not find anybody tougher than Mitchell?

he fought judah because at the time they signed the contract judah was the undisputed champion and all judah had to do was beat baldimir but judah didnt but floyd went on with the fight anyway he could have backed out...

It was not signed they had an agreement... When Judah lossed the fight should of never happened...

he then would beat baldimir for the lineal welterweight title.. he was going to fight magarito (i have an article on it if ya want me to prove it) but the date they gave floyd would be give him four months in between his last one he ask to to give a date a couple months later they said no then floyd said fine ill fight magarito for 8 mill on 4 months rest but they would have to guarantee him a lucrative bout with then cash cow miguel cotto they said they can only offer him 7 million so he turned it down all together

The Margarito payday was the highest of his career at the time. Floyd in taking the Margarito fight and the guarantee 8mill. He wanted a contract of guarantee 10mil to fight Cotto. And, Arum could only guarantee 7mil you are right about that. However, this was 2006. Cotto was not a cash cow. At this time he did not have a fight with Mosley or Judah yet. Cotto around this time was just getting done beating Malinnaggi at 140. He still didn't even have 1 fight at 147.

Where did you get that Cotto was a cash cow? And, Floyd at this time still haven't proved to be able to carry a PPV. To be the A side of a PPV. He only had 2 PPV's at this time. So Floyd being the smart man that he was. Wanted a contract that HE knew could not be made in order to safe face and not fight Margarito for 8mil which would of been his highest payday at that time. He turned that down then bought out his contract with Arum for $750,000. Floyd he might be scared to lose that '0' but he is a very smart man. And, I really do admire his intellegence... He knows how to fool the boxing public...

[bacardishots]

God bless the Mosleys. Shane wins a fight with the plasterless Margarito and all of a sudden he's the best welterweight in the world and should call the shots. As Ed Lover would say, "C'mon Son, go ahead with that bull****." Shane wants so bad to make money it's almost annoying. He lost to Cotto and he beat Margacheato and now he's the best cause Margacheato beat Cotto down with cement cynderblocks. C'mon Son. Mosley, fight your way back up homey. Take a fight with Clottey or Cintron or Williams or Berto. I know you ain't young no more. But if you still the best, go ahead and take all the rest of the welters out, be impressive in doing it, then make your demands on Prettyboy, Pacquiao and even Cotto. Till then, C'mon Son, stop whining.

[defcon215]

[QUOTE=jrosales13;6491783]He was Harris #1 contender. He could of fought Harris and beat Harris and would of won the belt. Which then he could of fought Gatti in a unification fight. And, probably would of been more money for both. But, Harris was tougher opponent than Bruseles. So why risk it right?

He could not find anybody tougher than Mitchell?

he probably could have but like i said he took the fight to get a feel for welterweight

It was not signed they had an agreement... When Judah lossed the fight should of never happened...

ok i stand corrected it was an agreement and he could hae back out like i said but he fought him anyway and still beat baldimir

The Margarito payday was the highest of his career at the time. Floyd in taking the Margarito fight and the guarantee 8mill. He wanted a contract of guarantee 10mil to fight Cotto. And, Arum could only guarantee 7mil you are right about that. However, this was 2006. Cotto was not a cash cow. At this time he did not have a fight with Mosley or Judah yet. Cotto around this time was just getting done beating Malinnaggi at 140. He still didn't even have 1 fight at 147.

Where did you get that Cotto was a cash cow? And, Floyd at this time still haven't proved to be able to carry a PPV. To be the A side of a PPV. He only had 2 PPV's at this time. So Floyd being the smart man that he was. Wanted a contract that HE knew could not be made in order to safe face and not fight Margarito for 8mil which would of been his highest payday at that time. He turned that down then bought out his contract with Arum for $750,000. Floyd he might be scared to lose that '0' but he is a very smart man. And, I really do admire his intellegence... He knows how to fool the boxing public...

when i say cash cow i mean arums prized possession so maybe i over did it a little bit with the term but it still doesnt hide the fact that if he offered 8 million for margarito why would he offer less money to fight his prized possession at time...

The Margarito payday was the highest of his career at the time. Floyd in taking the Margarito fight and the guarantee 8mill.

no it wasnt he still went on to make 8 million for the baldimir fight which was 3 months after the purposed schedule for the margarito fight

[TboneNYC09]

Anyone of the top fighters today should want a fight with Sugar Shane.He is a great name to have under your belt(especially if you beat him)and is the WBA welter weight champ.And a great fighter(Future Hall Of Famer).
It's a no brainer.

[TboneNYC09]

Shanes way past having to climb his way back anywhere.The mans been in there with every great to date and just want's to seal his legacy...Money,what money...the man can make money regardless who he fights...****! Shane is already well off..why do people lable a guy like Shane,who i think is the last fighter out there that should be labled a money hungry fighter.The man lives in the gym,all the other fighters call him a gym rat...and for good reason.Shane earned his right to get a fight with all the top fighters,and they should want a fight with Mosley.