Jack Mosley Talks Pacquiao-Cotto; Floyd Mayweather Jr

[solly6]

****ing tard cotto beat mosley. I like mosley he is a great fighter but cotto beat him hands down no ****ing controversey at all. So this is the best welterweight fight why dont people see that.

[defcon215]

That all depends on how you look at it. I don't consider Floyd a ducker. As he was moving up, he fought the best at 135 (Jose Luis Castillo), moved up to 140 and tried to get fights with the best at 140 (Kostya Tyszu, Hatton and Cotto) but neither would fight him; moved to 147 and beat the two best at 147 at that time (Judah and Baldomir) and then moved up to 154 and beat de la Hoya. Then, after Hatton finally developed some balls after turning the fight down three times, Mayweather beat Hatton. He will fight Cotto and Mosley, but in his own time.

At 130, Pac fougtht Eric Morales but didnt' try to Joan Guzman or a third fight with JMM); at 135 he fought David Diaz (he didn't Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell or Joel Casamayor).

To answer your question, Pac has ducked the best opposition. Mayweather hasn't.

*me shaking your hand* you couldnt have put it better sir i knew all this time there were other fighters at 135 that was probably way better than david diaz i just dont follow lightweight

alot of people dont realize how much slack mayweather took (brian kenny from espn) when he chose to fight zab instead of then the number one welterweight and technically undisputed champion in baldimir but then after he trashed those two took money fights with oscar and hatton now all of a sudden hes ducking people no matter what floyd does the detractors are always going to find someone floyd ducked

[T.Horton]

Which welterweights? Baldomir and Judah, the number 1 and 2 welterweights when Cotto wasn't even on the welterweight radar, Mosley was avoiding Mayweather due to a toothache and Pacquaio was still shilling for Murad Muhammad at 122.

In his entire welterweight career, Mosley has beaten two top welterweights, Oscar De La Hoya (when Mosley was on steroids) and Margarito (I don't consider Collazo a top welterweight). He lost to Vernon Forest and Miguel Cotto, the other top welterweights he fought. In fact, he has lost more big fights that he has won (two against Forest, two against Wright and one against Cotto, and he was on the verge of losing against Mayorga) and he avoided a big fight against Mayweather twice. Yet, haters and wanna-be boxing experts like you make it sound like he cleaned out the division with his awesome skills.

he fought wright at ww did he?

[MANGLER]

Pac-JMM 3 shoulda happened and SSM-Cotto 2 shoulda happened. I think SSM coulda beat Cotto in a rematch this yr. Cotto shoulda just agreed to fight outside MSG to get SSM to accept it. He already beat him so **** the venue. Fight him and we woulda had a new WW world champ. I still hope that rematch happens at some point. And of course SSM vs Pac or Mr boat buyer should Pac win next month.

[T.Horton]

You are right that Mosley would be a better challenge for Mayweather (not by much, but a better challenger nevertheless). However, a third fight with Marquez or a fight with Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell or Joan Guzman would have been a greater challenge for Pacquaio. Instead, he chose to fight David Diaz. Yet, I haven't seen any of the haters on this site criticizing Pac for ducking these fighters. Yet, these same clowns criticize Mayweather for ducking a guy (Mosley) who turned the fight down twice already and another guy (Cotto) who had an opportunity to fight Mayweather at 140 and "ducked" him!

That is why I say the haters on this site have absolutely no credibility! They remind me of the clowns at Fox News.

that's because he completely bypassed the division and jumped to ww where he destroyed oscar in a fight he was supposed to be dominated in.

[jrosales13]

Which welterweights? Baldomir and Judah, the number 1 and 2 welterweights

Who exactly was number 2? Not Judah... He was number 3... Baldomir was the lineal champ, #1 contender was Floyd, #2 contender was Margarito, #3 contender was Judah...

Pacquaio was still shilling for Murad Muhammad at 122.

He has come along way hasn't he?

[jrosales13]

Pac-JMm 3 shoulda happened and SSM-Cotto 2 shoulda happened. I think SSM coulda beat Cotto in a rematch this yr. Cotto shoulda just agreed to fight outside MSG to get SSM to accept it. He already beat him so **** the venue. ight him and we woulda had a new WW world champ. I still hope that rematch happens at some point. And of course SSM vs Pac or Mr boat buyer should Pac win next month.

I swear you are one of the best posters on here...

[defcon215]

cotto never beat mosley, he got a gift in msg.

as i read your claim that mosley landed more shots than cotto that may be the case doesnt equate to him winning the fight although mosley landed power shots cotto walked through those punches and countered beautifully where as cotto through shots he backed mosley up he controlled the ring and had mosley uncomfortable through out the fight and was more busy in the last half of rds judges tend to forget what a fighter does in the beginning of the rd but the remember the middle-end of the rd and i think cotto for the most part look better towards the middle end of each rd than mosley

[jrosales13]

Mosley screwed up in the past when he wouldn't give Mayweather a fight when Mayweather was trying to make a name for himself and now Mayweather has the RIGHT to make Mosley suffer and sweat.

When exactly did Mosley not want to give Mayweather a fight? You talking about when Mosley couldn't make 135 anymore and decided to go up 2 divisions to WW to fight Oscar 10yrs ago? Or are you talking about after the Vargas rematch when Shane did not want to fight in November. But, was willing to fight in January?

[jrosales13]

Yes, you have. His name is Manny Pacquaio. He ducked a third fight with Marquez as well as fights with Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell, Joan Guzman in order to fight David Diaz.

David Diaz was Pac first fight at 135. Which was what like his 8th division? David Diaz was undefeated at 135 and was more of champion than what Zab Judah was. But, fine you can make your point. I will give you Casamayor, Campbell, and JMM 3. However, he didn't duck Juan Diaz. Diaz was coming off a really good ass whooping on the hands of Campbell. There was no reason to fight Diaz. That would of been like when Floyd fought Corley who was coming off a loss... That would of proved nothing...

The truth is Mayweather hasn't ducked anyone.

Why did he fight Ndou and Sosa instead of Johnston and Spadafora? Why did he fight Bruseles instead of Harris? Why did he fight Mitchell or Judah instead of Margarito? Why did he fight JMM instead of any other top 20 real WWs out there?