Jack Mosley Talks Pacquiao-Cotto; Floyd Mayweather Jr

[big_james10]

ive never seen a fighter get soo much credit for ducking all his contemporaries like fraud jr has, only roy jones jr, but fraud takes the cake if you look up ducker chicken**** in the dictionary youll see a pic of fraud gayrunner jr next to it.

Yes, you have. His name is Manny Pacquaio. He ducked a third fight with Marquez as well as fights with Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell, Joan Guzman in order to fight David Diaz.

The truth is Mayweather hasn't ducked anyone. He is still considering who he is going to fight next instead of catering to clowns like you who want to see him fight a desperate has-been who has already turned down two opportunities to fight Mayweather.

[bray26]

Fans?...or posters?

The fans are the ones buying the million PPV's. Repeatedly. The posters are the ones with the apparent problem.

If I go to the next ten casuals and ask who FMJ should fight, do you think they will say "Manny"...or "Shane"?

Dip ****! Posters r fans! Casual fans? True indeed casual fans r what r needed to keep boxing thriving but hard core fans r who need to be satisfied with boxing and fighters for that matter! Because they are the ones who without fail buy ppv events and make great fights mega events! And those fans know PAC is over exposed and undersized for someone of the skill set of Floyd! Sales r greater with Manny, no one doubts that but the greater challenge is Shane and there is no doubt about that either!

[tesla_power]

Yes, you have. His name is Manny Pacquaio. He ducked a third fight with Marquez as well as fights with Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell, Joan Guzman in order to fight David Diaz.

The truth is Mayweather hasn't ducked anyone. He is still considering who he is going to fight next instead of catering to clowns like you who want to see him fight a desperate has-been who has already turned down two opportunities to fight Mayweather.

Am I reading this right? pac is more of a ducker than pbf?

[big_james10]

Sales r greater with Manny, no one doubts that but the greater challenge is Shane and there is no doubt about that either!

You are right that Mosley would be a better challenge for Mayweather (not by much, but a better challenger nevertheless). However, a third fight with Marquez or a fight with Juan Diaz, Joel Casamayor, Nate Campbell or Joan Guzman would have been a greater challenge for Pacquaio. Instead, he chose to fight David Diaz. Yet, I haven't seen any of the haters on this site criticizing Pac for ducking these fighters. Yet, these same clowns criticize Mayweather for ducking a guy (Mosley) who turned the fight down twice already and another guy (Cotto) who had an opportunity to fight Mayweather at 140 and "ducked" him!

That is why I say the haters on this site have absolutely no credibility! They remind me of the clowns at Fox News.

[boricuarn]

Papi Mosley let me refresh your ******ed brain. Cotto beat your son by unanimous decision, there was no question about that. The only thing Mosley need to do is beat Berto, collect a second belt and I bet you that Bob Arum will get a fight against you to take those belts that are too big for you. If would be a second fight tonight, he will beat your ass again, Do not talk any more garbage, Cotto never refused to fight anyone and never will.

[boricuarn]

Mayweather’s reluctance to face the best opposition available may hurt his overall legacy. The same can be said of Roy Jones Junior, who finished outside the top ten in the light heavyweight survey. Mayweather received votes on just one list out of 43, and that was a tenth place vote. Like Jones, Mayweather has all the talent in the world. In fact, he is even more talented, because unlike Jones who primarily relied on reflexes and raw athleticism, Mayweather is actually an outstanding boxer with textbook skills in all areas of the fight game. If he wants to cash in at the gates, he can continue fighting inferior opposition, but if he wants to secure a legacy in the annals of boxing history, he needs to step it up.
I am tired to read so much garbage about who are the best. I have to say that unless any of them fight against each other, then when we can say who are the best welter. This are just opinion of a bunch of people which in many time have proved that they are idiot and ******ed with no knowledge in boxing. Those people that choose Mayweather in the P4P list, now they placed 35 position, which I believe he still has no business to be considered when he has not proved that he is a real welter weight champion or has a legacy about one of the best in this category. But after all the garbage boxing writers talk and write, they still chosen him in the second place in the P4P list, after almost 2 years out, never defend his belt against any real welter, and now for his comeback choose a poor guy Marquez which after he drank all the urine developed ******ation in his brain and forgot how to fight.

[big_james10]

Am I reading this right? pac is more of a ducker than pbf?

That all depends on how you look at it. I don't consider Floyd a ducker. As he was moving up, he fought the best at 135 (Jose Luis Castillo), moved up to 140 and tried to get fights with the best at 140 (Kostya Tyszu, Hatton and Cotto) but neither would fight him; moved to 147 and beat the two best at 147 at that time (Judah and Baldomir) and then moved up to 154 and beat de la Hoya. Then, after Hatton finally developed some balls after turning the fight down three times, Mayweather beat Hatton. He will fight Cotto and Mosley, but in his own time.

At 130, Pac fougtht Eric Morales but didnt' try to Joan Guzman or a third fight with JMM); at 135 he fought David Diaz (he didn't Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell or Joel Casamayor).

To answer your question, Pac has ducked the best opposition. Mayweather hasn't.

[big_james10]

Mayweather’s reluctance to face the best opposition available may hurt his overall legacy.

Who said Mayweather was unwilling to face the best opposition available? Definitely not Mayweather. Mosley rejected Mayweather's offers to fight in 1999 and 2006. When he called out Cotto at 140, Arum wouldn't even consider the fight, even though he promoted Mayweather at the time. He also called out Hatton at 140 and Hatton's promoter said NO WAY! Neither Mosley nor Cotto have any better chance of beating Mayweather now than they did several years ago. You have no evidence to support your "theory" that Mayweather is reluctant to face anyone. He is taking his time to decide who he wants to fight next. Simply because Mosley desperately wants the fight now doesn't mean Mayweather has an obligation to fight him NOW! I am sure he will fight both Mosley and Cotto, but in his own time. That is not ducking, especially when both of those fights could have already taken place years ago!!!

[tesla_power]

That all depends on how you look at it. I don't consider Floyd a ducker. As he was moving up, he fought the best at 135 (Jose Luis Castillo), moved up to 140 and tried to get fights with the best at 140 (Kostya Tyszu, Hatton and Cotto) but neither would fight him; moved to 147 and beat the two best at 147 at that time (Judah and Baldomir) and then moved up to 154 and beat de la Hoya. Then, after Hatton finally developed some balls after turning the fight down three times, Mayweather beat Hatton. He will fight Cotto and Mosley, but in his own time.

At 130, Pac fougtht Eric Morales but didnt' try to Joan Guzman or a third fight with JMM); at 135 he fought David Diaz (he didn't Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell or Joel Casamayor).

To answer your question, Pac has ducked the best opposition. Mayweather hasn't.

I do not consider the both of them duckers. I'm a fan of both. But if you equate ducking inversely proportional to risk. You would find that pac is more of a risk taker than pbf.

For bringing up the 130 and 135 good/better opposition, I kind of agree. But I do not agree with the bold statement. Do you really think Juan Diaz, Nate, or Casamayor constitute a greater risk than dlh, hatton and Cotto? Comparing the last 3 fights of both pbf and pac, I doubt that you would find pbf's choice of opponents a bigger risk than pac. Pbf better opposition and matchmaking is in the lower weight (Corrales,Castillo,Genaro, etc..)

I would beg of you to reconsider your position.

[Pullcounter]

The Mosleys act like Cotto didn't already beat Shane lol.
Some of the stuff he says I agree with though.

cotto never beat mosley, he got a gift in msg.