Can Pacquiao "The God" Knockdown Clottey with a Jab like Cotto did????????

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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    the check hook was skill and timing... the intent was to hurt hatton.
    You just said Cotto's jab was timed well. And it takes skill to throw it, right? And I don't think Cotto meant to caress Clottey when he threw it. Just my take.


    nope, pac set up that punch, he just didn't throw it out there.
    So...Cotto just "threw a punch out there?" Explain how you ascertained this.

    cause clottey wasn't in position to throw a punch and got caught
    Clottey was stepping in and throwing a punch himself. You sure we're talking about the same knockdown?

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    • Bushidō
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      #32
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      No, we're not. The timing of the jab caused the knockdown. That's usually how KD's occur.
      are you guys really arguing whether the jab knockdown was lucky or skill

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        #33
        Originally posted by oc9979
        so was it luck hatton knocked down against floyd? Hatton jumped in. If he would of not jump he wouldn't gotten knocked out.

        or pacquiao knocking down hatton?? Hatton jumped in as well. Pacquiao threw the straight left without looking. He just threw it out there
        anyway, pac always say he's "lucky". he must be damn lucky for the 49 wins. what can i say is pac practiced that left cross a lot.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Bay Bomber
          are you guys really arguing whether the jab knockdown was lucky or skill
          Yes. Actually, I'm done arguing. If being off-balance means that any knockdown can be excused as luck, then we're gonna have to rewrite history.

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            #35
            No, he cant.

            And the KD wasnt because Clottey, was off balance, people aare just idiots here.


            if this bunch of fools, watch **** with boxin fans eyes isntead of haters, they will see that Clottey was in perfect position to either throw or block a punch, Cottos timming and sledge hammer jab, was what KD Clottey.

            But Oh well, lets people believe whatever they want, they are the ones in denial!

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            • shade darkar
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              #36
              Originally posted by Sox8055
              Well can he? Regardless of the off balance issue, because if you know boxing than you know that Clottey stepped in with his hands a bit down and it was a well time powerful jab an no off balance issue.

              discuss.....
              lol @ this geezer buzzin over a jab that knocked clottey down. wooooooow !!

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                #37
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Yes. Actually, I'm done arguing. If being off-balance means that any knockdown can be excused as luck, then we're gonna have to rewrite history.
                The thread was asking if Pacquiao could do the same to Clottey. Of course the thread is to compare Cotto and PAcquiao to each other but whatever. So yeah Pacquiao COULD knockdown Clottey with the same punch just like any fighter can if he timed it right.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Bay Bomber
                  The thread was asking if Pacquiao could do the same to Clottey. Of course the thread is to compare Cotto and PAcquiao to each other but whatever. So yeah Pacquiao COULD knockdown Clottey with the same punch just like any fighter can if he timed it right.
                  Of course, ANY fighter could do it if timed right. Huge if though.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    You just said Cotto's jab was timed well. And it takes skill to throw it, right?
                    yes, but it wasn't mean to hurt clottey or knock him down

                    And I don't think Cotto meant to caress Clottey when he threw it. Just my take.
                    that's my take too, but the knockdown was lucky



                    So...Cotto just "threw a punch out there?" Explain how you ascertained this.
                    pretty much... he was just using his jab to keep clottey at bay, not to knock him down.


                    Clottey was stepping in and throwing a punch himself. You sure we're talking about the same knockdown?
                    he stepped in and cotto stepped to the side thus he was out of position

                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Yes. Actually, I'm done arguing. If being off-balance means that any knockdown can be excused as luck, then we're gonna have to rewrite history.
                    its not rewriting history... the knockdown was lucky, the jab wasn't... we're saying the same thing.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      yes, but it wasn't mean to hurt clottey or knock him down


                      that's my take too, but the knockdown was lucky




                      pretty much... he was just using his jab to keep clottey at bay, not to knock him down.



                      he stepped in and cotto stepped to the side thus he was out of position



                      its not rewriting history... the knockdown was lucky, the jab wasn't... we're saying the same thing.
                      We're not saying the same thing.

                      Cotto threw a well-time counter left that caused an off-balance Clottey to go down. If you think that's "luck," suit yourself. I disagree. Hatton practically threw himself at Floyd when he was caught with a well-timed, counter left. Harder punch? Yes. Lucky? No.

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