Originally posted by Carnivore
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Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?
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Maybe his p4p # 3 ranking is a bit high but I wouldnt say he's overrated since he's coming off his biggest victory against Pavlik. I do agree tho that I dont think he can beat all the young guns anymore and i'm sure there's alot who could get a victory. I dont think anyone can school him tho even at this age. lol it's just hard arguing that a 44 year old man can beat up all the top contenders. Age catches up to the best of em sooner or later. But Bhop loves proving ppl wrong so I think he got another good fight or 2 left in himOriginally posted by FireGuyX View PostHopkins has a great career, but he's overrated now. I don't think he beats Adamek, Dawson, or some of the boxers in the SMW division. Hopkins fans think I'm being disrespectful when I say that, I'm not. It's just that his time is up and it shows in the ring. He's much slower, less sharper, really sloppy (see Winky fight), and he's doesn't look technically schooled like he used to be.
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I hope so, and I have a feeling he will!Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones View Postwill be quite funny if old roy beats his ass.
Jones has been active and focused on fighting, while old Hopkins has been sitting around inactive. Jones is fighting decent opponents, former world titleholders his own size like Green, while Hopkins will now fight a clubfighter from two weight classes smaller than LH.
And Roy beat him before, he knows how to do it!
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this topic is overratedOriginally posted by Carnivore View PostHe's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!
The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.
His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?
This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.
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Hopkins is an all time great!
Hopkins is the best there is, the best there was and the best every Middleweight since Marvin Hagler. There will never be another middleweight like Bernard Hopkins. His record defense record speaks for itself and for him to go up to Lightheavyweight and still win fights is icing on the cake for his career. He will be judged by his middleweight career..
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Originally posted by Carnivore View PostHe's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!
The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.
His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?
This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.
agree on all counts...
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Yet you consider Calzaghe an ATG! That figures!Originally posted by Carnivore View PostHe's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!
The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.
His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?
This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.
So just because Joe is white he's an ATG but since Hopkins is a brutha you trash him and talk **** about...You've doing this **** for years Tunney...Kinda fucked up you still think like that...People say the craziest **** from the safety of their home!Originally posted by Carnivore View PostBeing defeated by an ATG like Joe doesn't make a boxer overrated.
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you gotta admit though...whenever anyone says hopkins made a career out of beating up on smaller fighters, nobody can come up with any solid claim otherwise...all they say is 'your a hater'...
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