Is Bernard Hopkins overrated?

[Shadows]

Just giving the Kessler hater with B-Hop in his avatar who made that thread a taste of his own medicine.

Bhopreign is another one who hates Kessler and all European boxers. Why are Hopkins fans so racist? Roy Jones fans are generally not.

So you did do it for that reason. Sorry, but in IMHO, it's childish.

I consider myself a Hopkins fan and I'm not a racist, btw. You shouldn't generalize like that.

[The Hammer]

how is b-hop overrated when he lost a SD against calzaghe at age of 43?
that means calzaghe is also overrated.
look how he beat pavlik, one of his best fights and he is soooooo old

He used lots of headbutts, holding and faking low blows to survive against Joe.

Pavlik was sick at the time, and coming up from two weight classes below.

[The Hammer]

So you did do it for that reason. Sorry, but in IMHO, it's childish.

I consider myself a Hopkins fan and I'm not a racist, btw. You shouldn't generalize like that.

Please explain to me: why is it okay to bash Calzaghe and Kessler, but childish to expose how overrated Hopkins is?

Is the old ex-convict Hopkins some kind of sacred cow?

[shade darkar]

He's Ring p4p #3 even though he hasn't fought in over a year!

The only man he ever fought his own size was Tarver. All his other wins were over cherry-picked SMALLER boxers like De La Hoya and Trinidad, or over nobodies like Steve Frank and Andrew Council. He lost when he faced bona fide world-class opponents like Roy Jones Jr., unless they were little guys like Trinidad and De La Hoya.

His illegal "hold and headbutt" style while effective, is boring to watch. His character is weak - remember his racist statements about never letting "a white boy" beat him, before the Calzaghe fight?

This man is overrated and definitely NOT an ATG.

as far as p4p number 3 goes, yes that is wrong and is over rated! recently he dominated pavlik, and was the underdog before the fight. why?, i am not sure because pavlik is fcukin wank.

[Sir Tom Jones]

will be quite funny if old roy beats his ass.

[Shadows]

Please explain to me: why is it okay to bash Calzaghe and Kessler, but childish to expose how overrated Hopkins is?

Is the old ex-convict Hopkins some kind of sacred cow?

It's not okay as I don't like bashing any boxer. However, IMO his thread isn't even close to your thread. He wasn't so rediculous in his thoughts and opinions, and he's still trying to have a dialogue. Seriously man, look at the poll options.

Also, I'd make the same comments if the fighter in question was Mayweather, Jones, etc.

[Tmb04]

Just giving the Kessler hater with B-Hop in his avatar who made that thread a taste of his own medicine.

Bhopreign is another one who hates Kessler and all European boxers. Why are Hopkins fans so racist? Roy Jones fans are generally not.

I'm not a Kessler Hater. I didnt kno that saying a fighter is overrated makes someone a hater? I never said he's going to lose the Tourney, never even said he was gonna lose a fight. Said my opinion, wanted to kno others opinions.

[Schmerzen]

u just forget to say that hopkins is 17years older than pavlik.
stop searching for excuses, b-hop can beat pavlik anytime.
nobody knocked him out yet .
prime b-hop would school any middlweight and super-middleweight right now.
ppl overrate what he said to make him look like a racist, but words dont kill anybody at the end.
he was just trash talking.
btw. why cant we just vote for NO or YES?
its more like the thread-starter is the racist one here, not B-hop

[#1Assassin]

I'm not a Kessler Hater. I didnt kno that saying a fighter is overrated makes someone a hater? I never said he's going to lose the Tourney, never even said he was gonna lose a fight. Said my opinion, wanted to kno others opinions.

questioning someone skills or resume in a respectfull and thoughtful way (like you did) isnt being a hater. creating childish polls and questioning a fighters character is. not to mention tunney is being a huge hypocrite calling other people racist. hes as big a racist as u will find on this forum, and his attempts to hide it are all very transparent.

[Boxingwizard]

Hopkins had a great career, but he's overrated now. I don't think he beats Adamek, Dawson, or some of the boxers in the SMW division. Hopkins fans think I'm being disrespectful when I say that, I'm not. It's just that his time is up and it shows in the ring. He's much slower, less sharper, really sloppy (see Winky fight), and he's doesn't look technically schooled like he used to be.