the p4p list challenge

[ThePunchingBag]

Yea i agree with the list only would replace Vazquez with Kessler.

If he beats Ward, I'll definitely put him in there. No doubt.

[-Lowkey-]

i clicked p4p kings on accident i dont agree 100% with any of them but thats just me

[dans]

How is boxing scene's not the best?

Look

boxingscene:
1. manny pacquiao
2. floyd mayweather jr.
3. bernard hopkins
4. shane mosley
5. paul williams
6. chad dawson
7. miguel cotto
8. juan manuel marquez
9. ivan calderon
10. hozumi hasegawa

Boxing scene has the right list. Manny SHOULD be ahead of Floyd until Manny loses. Bernard SHOULD be ahead of Mosley. Paul Williams deserves to be on the list around 5, whereas the ring doesn't have him. Dawson deserves to be on there, and he's rated appropriately. Marquez, Calderon, and Hasegawa all belong too. My only question is Israel Vasquez and Donaire. Those two can replace Calderon and Hasegawa, but I'm fine either way.

Boxing scene has by far the best list.

[Taino79]

Out of the 3 The ring makes the most sense. I don't know anyone that has Dawson over Cotto, or Donaire over Cotto. IMO Cotto should be in the top 5. Mayweather should be below B-Hop until he fights a legit Welterweight.

A more legit list imo would look like this.

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4. Sugar Shane Mosley
5. Miguel Angel Cotto
6. Paul Williams
7. Juan Manuel Marquez
8. Arthur Abraham
9. Tomasz Adamek
10. Israel Vasquez

8, 9, 10 are up for debate but 1-7 is solid.

It will probably change by the end of this year.

This is the best list I've seen so far but I will put B-Hop after Paul Williams due to inactivity that's my opinion.. Good List.

[ThePunchingBag]

How is boxing scene's not the best?

Look

boxingscene:
1. manny pacquiao
2. floyd mayweather jr.
3. bernard hopkins
4. shane mosley
5. paul williams
6. chad dawson
7. miguel cotto
8. juan manuel marquez
9. ivan calderon
10. hozumi hasegawa

Boxing scene has the right list. Manny SHOULD be ahead of Floyd until Manny loses. Bernard SHOULD be ahead of Mosley. Paul Williams deserves to be on the list around 5, whereas the ring doesn't have him. Dawson deserves to be on there, and he's rated appropriately. Marquez, Calderon, and Hasegawa all belong too. My only question is Israel Vasquez and Donaire. Those two can replace Calderon and Hasegawa, but I'm fine either way.

Boxing scene has by far the best list.

Dawson doesn't deserve to be anywhere above Cotto on any list. He got a UD over a 40 yr old Johnson, while Cotto beat Mosley and Prime Clottey, two top welterweights. PWill beat Winky, but it's the same scenario as Dawson, he beat an old Winky and not two of the top Welterweights as Cotto has. Cotto deserves to be rated above PWill. Mayweather doesn't deserve to have second spot until he fights a legit Welterweight, period.

[dans]

Dawson doesn't deserve to be anywhere above Cotto on any list. He got a UD over a 40 yr old Johnson, while Cotto beat Mosley and Prime Clottey, two top welterweights. PWill beat Winky, but it's the same scenario as Dawson, he beat an old Winky and not two of the top Welterweights as Cotto has. Cotto deserves to be rated above PWill. Mayweather doesn't deserve to have second spot until he fights a legit Welterweight, period.

Dawson has never lost and has 2 wins over Tarver, a win over Adamek, and a win over Johnson. PWill has shown how dangerous he is at any weight, and deserves to be there.

I'm a huge Cotto fan, so I don't have a problem with saying he's better than Dawson and Williams, but I still think BS has it right.

[Legendary Hater]

Kessler in a Top 10 P4P right now??...LMAO....why?...because he LOST to "Above Average" Joe Calzaghe and has been feasting on BUMS since that loss?

That momma's boy can't even smell The Top 15....Hell...he'd be lucky to make The Top 20...

You can put both Klitschkos, Dawson, Calderon, John, Caballero, Adamek, Abraham, Pavlik, Darchinyan, Gamboa, Lopez, AND Froch ahead of him...

[ThePunchingBag]

Dawson has never lost and has 2 wins over Tarver, a win over Adamek, and a win over Johnson. PWill has shown how dangerous he is at any weight, and deserves to be there.

I'm a huge Cotto fan, so I don't have a problem with saying he's better than Dawson and Williams, but I still think BS has it right.

I feel Adamek's win over Golota was more impressive than the Johnson win. PWill is a great fighter and it's not his fault that he can't get any top fights, but until he does, I'm reluctant to put him in the top 5. IMO Cotto's achievements over the 2 top welterweights mean more than Dawson's and Pwill's wins this year.

[-EAGLE-]

Kessler in a Top 10 P4P right now??...LMAO....why?...because he LOST to "Above Average" Joe Calzaghe and has been feasting on BUMS since that loss?

That momma's boy can't even smell The Top 15....Hell...he'd be lucky to make The Top 20...

You can put both Klitschkos, Dawson, Calderon, John, Caballero, Adamek, Abraham, Pavlik, Darchinyan, Gamboa, Lopez, AND Froch ahead of him...

Froch ahead of him? freak

[dans]

I feel Adamek's win over Golota was more impressive than the Johnson win. PWill is a great fighter and it's not his fault that he can't get any top fights, but until he does, I'm reluctant to put him in the top 5. IMO Cotto's achievements over the 2 top welterweights mean more than Dawson's and Pwill's wins this year.

I don't, did you see that fight? Golota could barely move. The articles that came out after the fight painted a nicer picture of Golota than was really the case. Why does Adamek get more credit for beating a 41 year old Golota than Dawson who beat a 39 year old Johnson? Johnson is ranked the 6th best LHW by boxrec whereas Golota is the 59th ranked HW and clearly came into the fight out of shape. You can't simply give Adamek more credit because he did it at HW. Golota is a shell of his formal self.