the p4p list challenge

[Spray_resistant]

Floyd is a better boxer skillwise, i agree

but that doesn't mean he's got better accomplishments

and thats what p4p rankings is all about

No it isn't.

[MaD RoBoT]

so does cotto beat floyd then?

simple question...why cant you floyd haters answer it?

simple answer: Floyd wants none of it

Floyd's campaigning himself as bein the best WW out there yet he's dodgin each & every WW out there

[ummid]

first off, save the who "credibility" spiel for someone else...this is a message board bro...i aint writing for the NY times or ring magazine, so i honestly couldnt give two ****s what your snide comments might be...

secondly, id your fictional/hypothetical/false/dumb scenario with floyd fighting and beating calderon and pac fighting and beating mosley, i would then put pac above floyd...

BUT, this aint lord of the rings hobbit land bro...this is boxing...make all the gay ass fake hypotheticals you want...reality is, floyd is a better boxer than pac...simple as that...

you realize your second and third paragraph both contradict each other? floyd fighting and beating calderon wouldn't affect his match against pac the same way pac fighting and beating mosley (could be a "lucky" punch, old, dehydrated, weight drained, etc) wont affect it.

lotr? gay? fake? hypothetical? dumb? bro, i'm merely using logic. i know it might be hard to understand a bit, but you just stated the your basis for your list is your belief that pbf is better than pac, so i constructed an argument against it.

bottom line, on skills pbf might have the upperhand but on resume, pac gets it.

oh and yeah i'm a huge floyd mayweather jr fan too.



LIFESTYLE FLASHY

[#4#king]

simple answer: Floyd wants none of it

Floyd's campaigning himself as bein the best WW out there yet he's dodgin each & every WW out there

i want to laugh at your joke, but its not funny anymore, because its been said before a billion times...

im not protecting or defending floyd, hes just flart out better than pac...i understand its hard for people to accept, but he is...sorry if that disappoints you...

the fight is going to happen anyways, so stop pretending like floyd is dodging pac...problem is, when floyd beats pac hes going to hear the same story about how pac was "forced" to fight at a WW catch weight...

point being...***oot boxing fans will always find a way to disparage the best talents of our time...fortunately, most of the rest of us enjoy watching greatness in action...

[ummid]

Still don't agree with Nonito Donaire in those lists; he ain't that special & good for me!

agreed. he's feeding off some pac's glory.

i'm a huge pbf fan btw.

[ThePunchingBag]

P4P lists are about accomplishments, not skills. Skills are meaningless if you don't prove them in the ring.

Floyd hasn't proven **** as a Welterweight. He gets #2 out of pity. Beating a man 2 divisions lower than you, 5 years older than you, coming in 2 pounds over the limit, and not even knocking the guy out, doesn't mean **** towards p4p lists.

The ring has a solid list, even though I contend with Cotto being so low. He should be higher imo. Cotto has proven himself to be world class by taking on all the best Welterweights and coming out 2 out of 3. Paul Williams hasn't proven himself enough. He should be right behind Cotto.

Also important to p4p lists is not just winning a fight, but how you win it.

KO victories > Decision wins.

[MaD RoBoT]

No it isn't.

so you think Floyd's resume is better than Pac?

[#4#king]

you realize your second and third paragraph both contradict each other? floyd fighting and beating calderon wouldn't affect his match against pac the same way pac fighting and beating mosley (could be a "lucky" punch, old, dehydrated, weight drained, etc) wont affect it.

lotr? gay? fake? hypothetical? dumb? bro, i'm merely using logic. i know it might be hard to understand a bit, but you just stated the your basis for your list is your belief that pbf is better than pac, so i constructed an argument against it.

bottom line, on skills pbf might have the upperhand but on resume, pac gets it.

oh and yeah i'm a huge floyd mayweather jr fan too.



LIFESTYLE FLASHY

first, my "second and third paragraph" dont contradict each other at all...you might want to take an english class or something...or check out a dictionary from your local library...just stop embarrassing yourself...

back to point...like i said...im more of a pac fan than floyd...but floyd is simply better...feel free to disagree, but just stop embarrassing yourself for everyone elses sake...

[oc9979]

Even though its all fantasy, p4p is about perceived skill/ability not wins.....anyone could say any good fighter is wherever p4p.

if it is about skill why calderon is not in the top 5???
he is the best skill boxer around.
he even outboxed de la hoya in sparring.

noone in the p4p list except floyd has more skill than calderon

[Spray_resistant]

so you think Floyd's resume is better than Pac?

No, but his skill/ability if they were scaled down to the same size is greater in my view.....so in my make believe p4p system I am reluctantly forced to rank him higher tha Pac even though I just like everyone else have no realistic basis for it and no one can make a solid argument against my imaginary ruling either.