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  • MaD RoBoT
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    #11
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Even though its all fantasy, p4p is about perceived skill/ability not wins.....anyone could say any good fighter is wherever p4p.
    WTF p4p is all about skills? Man, then Calderon should be #1 on the list

    Most experts based their rankings on recent wins/resumes not on skills

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    • #4#king
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      #12
      Originally posted by MaD vEiN
      you keep blabbing bout Floyd is the best WW yet he won't fight any of them

      while Pac a LW/JWW is scheduled to fight one

      you gotta stop drinking that kool aid
      im not a floyd fan, i agree he dodges fighters, but hes still the bets p4p fighter out there...

      if/when he beats up pac/cotto its going to be the same old story...whomever he beats will be considered to be some washed up bum...my point is, i think floyd is the best p4p fighter out there...and its not even close, really...

      sorry if that disappoints you...

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #13
        Originally posted by MaD vEiN
        WTF p4p is all about skills? Man, then Calderon should be #1 on the list

        Most experts based their rankings on recent wins/resumes not on skills
        Nope the premise is if all the best were the same size and could be scaled down while retaining the same attributes that made them successful who would be the best.....but who cares really it is all fictional anyway

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        • ummid
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          #14
          Originally posted by #4#king
          simple really...hes a welterweight...pac is a welterweight (now)...

          floyd is longer, faster, more talented, heavier, stronger than pac...pac has more balls...

          dont get me wrong, i love pac...but he and freddie both are going to whatever than can do to dodge this fight as long as they can...no way pac beats floyd, and this is coming from a HUGE pac fan way back to his first morales fight..

          with pac, he simply doesnt have the talent to beat floyd at WW...and thats exactly what the p4p rankings are all about...

          the pacquiao no. 1 p4p ranking is jerk off lip service from the boxing media to the boxing media...they want to jerk you off too for as long as they can, because theres more money in pac being no. 1 p4p...

          every boxing fan knows floyd is a better WW than pac...why boxingscene and the ring dont realize that is beyond me...
          im pretty sure boxingscene and the ring magazine both base their p4p list on resumes, not just skills. i think it's illogical to just base a p4p list on skills alone since it gives a fighter an excuse to just keep dodging more interesting/credible/fair fights.

          basing on how your made your list, i would assume that you would still list pbf as your number 1 even if he chooses to fight and beat calderon on his next fight and pac decides to fight and KO mosley (huge IF)... just because you sincerely believe that pbf would beat pac right?

          oh and just a suggestion, you already have a pacman avatar, try not to keep stating how he is your favorite fighter on every single one of your posts, it loses its credibility.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ummid
            im pretty sure boxingscene and the ring magazine both base their p4p list on resumes, not just skills. i think it's illogical to just base a p4p list on skills alone since it gives a fighter an excuse to just keep dodging more interesting/credible/fair fights.

            basing on how your made your list, i would assume that you would still list pbf as your number 1 even if he chooses to fight and beat calderon on his next fight and pac decides to fight and KO mosley (huge IF)... just because you sincerely believe that pbf would beat pac right?

            oh and just a suggestion, you already have a pacman avatar, try not to keep stating how he is your favorite fighter on every single one of your posts, it loses its credibility.
            first off, save the who "credibility" spiel for someone else...this is a message board bro...i aint writing for the NY times or ring magazine, so i honestly couldnt give two ****s what your snide comments might be...

            secondly, id your fictional/hypothetical/false/dumb scenario with floyd fighting and beating calderon and pac fighting and beating mosley, i would then put pac above floyd...

            BUT, this aint lord of the rings hobbit land bro...this is boxing...make all the gay ass fake hypotheticals you want...reality is, floyd is a better boxer than pac...simple as that...

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              #16
              Originally posted by #4#king
              im not a floyd fan, i agree he dodges fighters, but hes still the bets p4p fighter out there...

              if/when he beats up pac/cotto its going to be the same old story...whomever he beats will be considered to be some washed up bum...my point is, i think floyd is the best p4p fighter out there...and its not even close, really...

              sorry if that disappoints you...
              this is what Floyd recently going thru, having these fantasy fights on paper

              Floyd shoulda woulda coulda beat *insert WW here* yet proceeds to fight blown up featherweights

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                #17
                Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                this is what Floyd recently going thru, having these fantasy fights on paper

                Floyd shoulda woulda coulda beat *insert WW here* yet proceeds to fight blown up featherweights
                so does cotto beat floyd then?

                simple question...why cant you floyd haters answer it?

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                • MaD RoBoT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by #4#king
                  first off, save the who "credibility" spiel for someone else...this is a message board bro...i aint writing for the NY times or ring magazine, so i honestly couldnt give two ****s what your snide comments might be...

                  secondly, id your fictional/hypothetical/false/dumb scenario with floyd fighting and beating calderon and pac fighting and beating mosley, i would then put pac above floyd...

                  BUT, this aint lord of the rings hobbit land bro...this is boxing...make all the gay ass fake hypotheticals you want...reality is, floyd is a better boxer than pac...simples as that...
                  Floyd is a better boxer skillwise, i agree

                  but that doesn't mean he's got better accomplishments

                  and thats what p4p rankings is all about

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                    #19
                    Still don't agree with Nonito Donaire in those lists; he ain't that special & good for me!

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                    • #4#king
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MaD vEiN
                      Floyd is a better boxer skillwise, i agree

                      but that doesn't mean he's got better accomplishments

                      and thats what p4p rankings is all about

                      nope...

                      p4p rankings are about what fighter is the most skilled fighter regardless of weight...

                      dont get me wrong, pac is no.2...hes and amazing fighter...just not as talented as floyd...

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