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  • merjohn32
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    #11
    Yes, I think it's tainted

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    • S.G.
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      #12
      Corrupted is a strong word, but they certainly are biased

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      • Sergio Martinez
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        #13
        I lost a alot of respect for Ring Magazine when they were took over by Golden Boy!

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        • rskumm21
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          #14
          Originally posted by ИATAS206
          That was in the 70's and a lot of the people, if not involved, were long ago fired, etc.



          For the most part I don't have a problem with their rankings.

          As for Mayweather being #2, who cares? He was pound 4 pound #1 for years so naturally as soon as he came back he would be in the top 10, it's subjective anyways and there are a number of places that have Floyd #1 right now.
          My point on the Don king thing was that it's not just becuse of Golden Boy that they are corrupt. It's happened in the past with them. Also you've got to admit some of the fighters placed should no longer be on the list.

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          • Horus
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            #15
            JMM wasnt a tune up.
            JMM is a great fighter.
            just like duran was a great fighter when he fought SRL.

            People act Like Sugar ray Robinson never fought henry armstrong.
            People act Like SRL never foguht duran
            People act Like Hagler never fought SRL
            People act Like Joe Louis never Fought Billy Conn
            People act Like Bernard Hopkins never Fought de la hoya
            People act Like Aaron Pryor never fought Alexis Arguello



            Mayweather is the greatest fighter of this era and p4p he should be number #1
            based on skill alone, and if we are adding accomplishments. He is truly p4p number #1.

            The ring is being too safe with their rankings...And I expect Mayweather to be number #1 again after nov 14th. No matter if pacquiao wins or lose.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #16
              Originally posted by Horus
              JMM wasnt a tune up.
              JMM is a great fighter.
              just like duran was a great fighter when he fought SRL.

              People act Like Sugar ray Robinson never fought henry armstrong.
              People act Like SRL never foguht duran
              People act Like Hagler never fought SRL
              People act Like Joe Louis never Fought Billy Conn
              People act Like Bernard Hopkins never Fought de la hoya
              People act Like Aaron Pryor never fought Alexis Arguello



              Mayweather is the greatest fighter of this era and p4p he should be number #1
              based on skill alone, and if we are adding accomplishments. He is truly p4p number #1.

              The ring is being too safe with their rankings...And I expect Mayweather to be number #1 again after nov 14th. No matter if pacquiao wins or lose.
              LMAO @ comparing a win over a 36yr old Marquez to Duran, Conn, etc.

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              • ИATAS
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                #17
                Originally posted by rskumm21
                My point on the Don king thing was that it's not just becuse of Golden Boy that they are corrupt. It's happened in the past with them.
                Other than the Don King thing, their history has been pretty outstanding considering the corrupt nature of the sport of boxing. They are still more credible imo than any boxing organization such as the WBC, WBO, etc etc etc.


                Also you've got to admit some of the fighters placed should no longer be on the list.
                Vazquez & Marquez are the only two names that are questionable, but on the other hand you can make the case they belong there since they were both ranked so highly in the past and others like bhop & shane mosley have also been pretty inactive. I don't think that has anything to do with Golden Boy and I think neither of them will be in the top 10 in the next few months.

                Also, the writers are still very criticle of Golden Boy and Oscar de la hoya, if their is corruption or a bias for Golden Boy, they definitely don't show in in their articles (they actually bash Oscar often).
                Last edited by ИATAS; 10-26-2009, 01:00 PM.

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                • Horus
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  LMAO @ comparing a win over a 36yr old Marquez to Duran, Conn, etc.
                  who is better JMM or billy conn?

                  You laugh but it is a true comparisons.

                  Being compared to somebody doesnt mean you have to be equals...

                  In that case, Why do you guys compare Cotto to Mayweather
                  Why do you guys compare Margarito to Mayweather
                  Why do you guys compare Williams to Mayweather
                  Why do you guys compare Berto to Mayweather
                  Why do you guys compare Mosley to Mayweather

                  None of them come close to Mayweather.
                  Even Pacquiao is not an equal to Mayweather....

                  But you compare these fighters to each other because at some point
                  they were in similar positions weather it is weight class, rankings, etc...
                  and in similar circumstances weather it be they fighting the same fighter somebody else has fought.

                  Comparisons doesn't anything to do about being equal or better than somebody.

                  Comparison has to do with linking things together that share similarities..

                  learn some **** in your life before you want to question comparisons.

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                  • DrewWoodside
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Unbelievable
                    I'm pretty much talking about their rankings. Here's why:

                    1) They have Mayweather at number two, even though he beat a lightweight and hasn't fought a natural or bigger opponent in more than two years.

                    2) They have Mosley ahead of Mayweather in the welterweight rankings but not the P4P rankings.

                    3) Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez had three great fights but are they still P4P worthy? The last good opponent they each fought were each other and that was about a year and a half ago.

                    What do you think?
                    I think there rankings are frequently ******ed. Sometimes decent. How can Mayweather be ranked above Miguel Cotto at Welterweight? That IMO is the most absurd recent change of Ring Rankings. Mosley randomly moving up in the P4P rankings would be the second most baffling change.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      who is better JMM or billy conn?
                      I don't know, horus. Why don't you tell me and explain why. Same with Marquez at 36 and a prime Duran when he fought Leonard the first time.

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