Pac's Corner Will Throw In The Towel

[Syf]

I'll go through your points of contention in order.

1. Speed: Like I stated, Manny has it, just not where it matters for this fight. he'd have to fight like say a Floyd jr to get away from Cottos relentless attack. He definetly has fast hands but do you really see him walking Cotto down and presuring the fight? I don't

2. Workrate:Like I said in the point above I can't see him pressuring the fight. He'd have to stand there and trade, and I don't think he wants to do that with Cotto.

3. Heart: It's a tossup. We all know these guys mean business.

I'll have to stick with my pick. And 24/7 has nothing to do with it, as you can see, nothing from the show was reflected in my reasons why I think Cotto will win. 24/7 is a show to hype the fight. For all we know tensions will rise in the Cotto camp in Episode 3, just to boost ratings and build the hype more. I'm entertained by the fight, but 24/7 is a completely separate entity to me.

Ah, so you meant defensive speed. Well, imo, Pac doesn't have that much of a defense. His defense is his offense, and his mobility. Floyd would fight a different fight than Pac must. Pac can use fast footwork and explosive leg/calf strength to dart inside and back outside, and have plenty of lateral movement, besides. He has also learned in his last few fights to move his head more, which is good. I don't think speed would be a particular issue, unless you would like to further delve into what you meant?

In all his past fights, pac never really gave me any indication that he's comfortable not pushing the action. Against naturally bigger opponents such as JMM and Hatton, he got in their faces. With DLH he darted in and out and side to side, but still was the aggressor. I think that that will be the story of the fight, because the way he beats Cotto, aside from a Mayweather approach, as you said, is to match Cotto's relentless aggression with his own. A la Margarito.

Its hard to tell who has more heart, but do you think Pac would have quit in a similar circumstance Cotto did? And let me also say I agree with Cotto bowing out for the "benefit of his kids", it was very sensible. But its almost like Pac has ****** heart..the type that can get you severely injured or killed. He strikes me as the type that would go out on his shield.

I was just throwing the 24/7 comment out there, didn't mean nothing by it.

[rskumm21]

tough to KO Cotto, but i give Manny the benefit of the doubt. His style has an advantage against left-handed fighters like Cotto. the main attribute that Cotto has that leads me to believe he'll come out on top is his heart. He has been in fights where he needed to dig deep to survive, and I don't see Manny as a pressure fighter. He can pile on the combo's and big shots early, but Cotto has great timing, and Manny will be there to counter. such a good match-up. Manny's got the biggest balls in boxing.

I agree with Manny fairing well against left-handed guys, but he's never faced a guy this big, that can switch. Though you are right this is a great match up.

[PAKYO]

I agree with Manny fairing well against left-handed guys, but he's never faced a guy this big, that can switch. Though you are right this is a great match up.

That's what i thought to when he pitted with dela Hoya and i lost money in it, luckily i got it back with the Hatton fight and more.

Now, i'm inclined to bet on Pac if the odds even out.

[rskumm21]

That's what i thought to when he pitted with dela Hoya and i lost money in it, luckily i got it back with the Hatton fight and more.

Now, i'm inclined to bet on Pac if the odds even out.

De La Hoya was weight-drained and old. Some say Cotto will be slightly weight-drained and a shell of his former self. There's no telling until the fight.

[rskumm21]

Ah, so you meant defensive speed. Well, imo, Pac doesn't have that much of a defense. His defense is his offense, and his mobility. Floyd would fight a different fight than Pac must. Pac can use fast footwork and explosive leg/calf strength to dart inside and back outside, and have plenty of lateral movement, besides. He has also learned in his last few fights to move his head more, which is good. I don't think speed would be a particular issue, unless you would like to further delve into what you meant?

In all his past fights, pac never really gave me any indication that he's comfortable not pushing the action. Against naturally bigger opponents such as JMM and Hatton, he got in their faces. With DLH he darted in and out and side to side, but still was the aggressor. I think that that will be the story of the fight, because the way he beats Cotto, aside from a Mayweather approach, as you said, is to match Cotto's relentless aggression with his own. A la Margarito.

Its hard to tell who has more heart, but do you think Pac would have quit in a similar circumstance Cotto did? And let me also say I agree with Cotto bowing out for the "benefit of his kids", it was very sensible. But its almost like Pac has ****** heart..the type that can get you severely injured or killed. He strikes me as the type that would go out on his shield.

I was just throwing the 24/7 comment out there, didn't mean nothing by it.

Pac will never quit. It's not in him. That's why I predict his corner will have to stop the fight.

[PAKYO]

De La Hoya was weight-drained and old. Some say Cotto will be slightly weight-drained and a shell of his former self. There's no telling until the fight.

Weight drained or not or whatever they call it, i still lost money on that fight and i don't intend to lose it again now.

[Aracibo04]

just to comment on the work rate..

if the manny's punches do not have enough power to hurt cotto it wont matter the work rate because cotto will be willing to trade. the only way manny's workrate will be a factor if there is enough power in them to make cotto not want to trade.

this is where i think the fight hinges upon and where opinions come into the discussion.

I think manny has power but not the power need to make cotto change his game plan. I predict that the first round both of these guys will come out swinging... great fight!!

[rskumm21]

just to comment on the work rate..

if the manny's punches do not have enough power to hurt cotto it wont matter the work rate because cotto will be willing to trade. the only way manny's workrate will be a factor if there is enough power in them to make cotto not want to trade.

this is where i think the fight hinges upon and where opinions come into the discussion.

I think manny has power but not the power need to make cotto change his game plan. I predict that the first round both of these guys will come out swinging... great fight!!

That's the thing. Getting hit by hard shots not only slows you down, but takes away power from your punches. That's what happened to Cotto against Margs. He was boxing well and landing good combinations, but Margarito kept coming.

[PAKYO]

I predict that the first round both of these guys will come out swinging... great fight!!

This is what i really wanted to see even if they charged me double on ppv.

[rskumm21]

This is what i really wanted to see even if they charged me double on ppv.

yeah,The fight should make up for any wasted ppv money so far this year.