Why does everyone think old sschool boxers...

[TheGreatA]

old school fighters often fought injured right? you f-kinn ****k sucking moron. you make no sense! nothing you say can justify why old timers are better than new timers its just complete bull****

No need for the childish insults.

I didn't say anything about old timers being better than today's fighters. Yes, old school fighters often fought injured. People don't understand the circumstances they fought under.

If you had fragile hands as Floyd does, that basically meant you had to look for another sport than boxing. Or you just wouldn't sit down on your punches, much like Willie Pep didn't. He too had bad hands and broke them often.

[rskumm21]

how is that the answer?? if floyd was in that time he would too be fighting that many times and be in condition to do so. I guess you're one of the many that think old school fighters are better than today's.

You guessed right.

[Bhopreign]

No need for the childish insults.

I didn't say anything about old timers being better than today's fighters. Yes, old school fighters often fought injured. People don't understand the circumstances they fought under.

If you had fragile hands as Floyd does, that basically meant you had to look for another sport than boxing. Or you just wouldn't sit down on your punches, much like Willie Pep didn't. He too had bad hands and broke them often.

So why didnt Pep look for another sport other than boxing as you say Floyd would have had to.

[TheGreatA]

So why didnt Pep look for another sport other than boxing as you say Floyd would have had to.

He was able to get away with having bad hands because of his boxing skills. People often mistake Pep for having no punch, that's untrue, he knocked out several hall of famers and world class contenders but most of the time he would be content on going the distance, not to risk a hand injury.

Now it would be an exaggeration to say that Floyd could have never fought in the 1940's/1950's, but he surely wouldn't run through all the opposition while remaining unbeaten either. If Floyd injured his hands in those times, he either doesn't get paid for months or he fights injured.

[sweetpea87]

Old school fighters went 15 rounds and weigh ins were on the same day so they either fought at their natural weight class or fought on an empty stomach which both of them are harder to do than today. They also fought multiple times in a month like Robinson lost his first fight to Lamotta then beat him in a rematch only 4 weeks later, todays top fighters fight 3 times max, now its more like 2 or even 1. They could also give and take more punishment than any of the fighters today. There were less weight classes and there were no ***** catch weights, so if you wanted to challenge a guy in his weight class you moved up on your own while he stayed at his regular weight. Only 1 belt per division so there were only real champs around so they couldnt call themselves a champ for holding some bs belt that someone vacated or beat any other random fighter to get.

Also the money aspect. Mayweather wont fight anyone especially top guys unless he will make the most money doing it. In those days they didnt make **** and the top guys would still fight top guys in a heart beat, not find all excuses to avoid them at all means necessary like Floyd. I think alot of it starts in the amatuers too. In those days no head gear and they would fight even more than the amateurs do today. Like last year USA won 1 medal at the olympics and it was bronze. 1984 class had 9 GOLD medals. Yes in some ways todays fighters can be more skilled because of the new technologies and becuase they started to throw straighter punchesand all that, but I really just dont think they teach boxing like they used to and the horrible USA amateur program shows that. Amatuers is where to learn the technique which you keep learning to become pro so without a good program in amateurs there will be no good pros. So all that being said both generations are great and have great fighters, but if it comes down to comparing them its easily old days>today

[Jiddu Dali]

Not better skilled but more heart and will. People in general were much harder back in the day. Those guys had real fights back then and lots of them. How do you think Floyd would do if he had to fight 3 time in 2 weeks against world ranked fighters? Fighting 15 or 20 rounds with 6 ounce gloves on?

lol@ you only mentioning Mayweather



I would give Mayweather a much better chance to competed with Old School fighters than many of the fighters today.

[Bhopreign]

Also the money aspect. Mayweather wont fight anyone especially top guys unless he will make the most money doing it. In those days they didnt make **** and the top guys would still fight top guys in a heart beat, not find all excuses to avoid them at all means necessary like Floyd.

Robinson would often threaten to pull out of a fight on the night of the fight if his monetarial demands werent met, he did this very often. He was notoriously known for being hard to deal with on a money basis. He wasnt the only one.

[Ravishing]

It's easy for the new generation of fans to say the current fighters would beat the older fighters because it's all they know. Sure, we have videos of fights from the past, but just like in any other sport it's tough to pit the greats of then with the greats of now...it's all speculation.

The difference IMO with yesterday's and today's fighters is the older fighters fought much tougher competition moving up the ranks as where a lot of up and comers today are fed certain guys to build their mass appeal and when they're actually challenged they fall heavily short (i.e. Victor Ortiz).

I mean, look at JCC Jr...

[Bhopreign]

He was able to get away with having bad hands because of his boxing skills. People often mistake Pep for having no punch, that's untrue, he knocked out several hall of famers and world class contenders but most of the time he would be content on going the distance, not to risk a hand injury.

Now it would be an exaggeration to say that Floyd could have never fought in the 1940's/1950's, but he surely wouldn't run through all the opposition while remaining unbeaten either. If Floyd injured his hands in those times, he either doesn't get paid for months or he fights injured.

Im still confused, if Pep could get away with it with his boxing skill, why would anyone think Floyd couldnt do the same. I dont think their is really any evidence to say a fighter of today wouldnt be able to do anything that was done in older times. Their all human.

[Jiddu Dali]

Old school fighters went 15 rounds and weigh ins were on the same day so they either fought at their natural weight class or fought on an empty stomach which both of them are harder to do than today. They also fought multiple times in a month like Robinson lost his first fight to Lamotta then beat him in a rematch only 4 weeks later, todays top fighters fight 3 times max, now its more like 2 or even 1. They could also give and take more punishment than any of the fighters today. There were less weight classes and there were no ***** catch weights, so if you wanted to challenge a guy in his weight class you moved up on your own while he stayed at his regular weight. Only 1 belt per division so there were only real champs around so they couldnt call themselves a champ for holding some bs belt that someone vacated or beat any other random fighter to get.

Also the money aspect. Mayweather wont fight anyone especially top guys unless he will make the most money doing it. In those days they didnt make **** and the top guys would still fight top guys in a heart beat, not find all excuses to avoid them at all means necessary like Floyd. I think alot of it starts in the amatuers too. In those days no head gear and they would fight even more than the amateurs do today. Like last year USA won 1 medal at the olympics and it was bronze. 1984 class had 9 GOLD medals. Yes in some ways todays fighters can be more skilled because of the new technologies and becuase they started to throw straighter punchesand all that, but I really just dont think they teach boxing like they used to and the horrible USA amateur program shows that. Amatuers is where to learn the technique which you keep learning to become pro so without a good program in amateurs there will be no good pros. So all that being said both generations are great and have great fighters, but if it comes down to comparing them its easily old days>today

good post other than the sneaky Mayweather dissing.....

why is it that Mayweather is the only guy that is afraid to fight>?..Arguably the most skilled, or most intelligent fighter of this era is AFRAID to fight?