Bert Sugar ''Roy Is 88th On My 100th Greatest Fighters List''

[S.G.]

Where is Pac on that list?
But i think RJJ should be higher. He did win a heavy title at least so deserves to be higher.

Not even in the honourable mentions section. Though to be fair I believe this list was published in 2001.

Is it just my copy that notes Floyd Mayweather Jr. twice in the Appendix?

[larry x]

id love to see the 87 he has ahead of roy...roys easily top 20-30

[Bhopreign]

Chavez 17 and Leonard 25? Yea ok.

[Kiid Dynamite]

I cant see his name but is Lennox lewis on the list?

[larry x]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Roberto Duran
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson
11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Joe Gans
16. Sam Langford
17. Julio Cesar Chavez
18. Jimmy Wilde
19. Stanley Ketchel
20 Barney Ross
21, Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Marcel Cerdan
24. Ezzard Charles
25. Sugar Ray Leonard
26. Joe Walcott (The original)
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Eder Jofre
29. Emile Griffith
30. Terry McGovern
31. George Foreman
32. Johnny Dundee
33. Jose Napoles
34. Pascual Perez
35. Billy Conn
36. Ruben Olivares
37. Joe Frazier
38. Tommy Loughran
39. Sandy Saddler
40. Kid Chocolate
41. Abe Attell
42. Evander Holyfield
43. George Dixon
44. Maxie Rosenbloom
45. Larry Holmes
46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
47. Marvin Hagler
48. Pernell Whitaker
49. Carlos Zarate
50. Thomas Hearns
51. Battling Nelson
52. Beau Jack
53. Ricardo ;Lopez
54. John L. Sullivan
55. Carlos Monzon
56. Alexis Arguello
57. Carmen Basillio
58. Pete Herman
59. Charley Burley
60. Ike Williams
61. Kid Gavilan
62. Jack Britton
63. **** Tiger
64. Pancho Villa
65. Panama Al Brown
66. Bob Fitszimmons
67. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
68. Tiger Flowers
69. James J.Corbett
70. Tony Zale
71. Tommy Ryan
72. Georges Carpentier
73, Sonny Liston
74. "Kid" McCoy
75. Bob Foster
76. Freddie Welsh
77. Joe Jeanette
78. Jim Driscoll
79. Jersey Joe Walcott
80. Peter Jackson
81. Ad Wolgast
82. Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
83. Manuel Ortiz
84. James J. Jeffries
85. Salvador Sanchez
86. Jimmy Barry
87. Carlos Ortiz
88. Roy Jones Jr.
89. Wilfredo Gomez
90. Aaron Pryor
91. Bernard Hopkins
92. Mike Gibbons
93. Jack Delaney
94. Johnny Kilbane
95. Willie Ritchie
96. Wilfredo Benitez
97. Packey McFarland
98. Rocky Graziano
99. Lew Jenkins
100. Mike Tyson

in other words..you had to fight when tv was black and white to get ranked high on his list...old bastard..lol

[hugh grant]

Against fucking John Ruiz.

I know. But if RJJ had of retired after that fight, people wouldnt be putting him as no88.
OK just imagine that RJJs last fight was against John Ruiz. RJJ would be in peoples top 10 thats for sure. So when you judge RJJ dont think about the losses to Tarver and JC.

[rskumm21]

Mike Tyson and Roy need to swap spots on this list.

[Sergio Martinez]

I cant see his name but is Lennox lewis on the list?

He never made it.

[Sergio Martinez]

The mans got Charlie burley in the 50's or so and he didnt even win a title

Because he never got the chance to fight for one, due to the colour of his skin. Dosen't mean he wasn't a great fighter.

[Sergio Martinez]

Yeah, I've never heard of him so he's not that big.

That may mean you don't know much about boxing!