looking back at some pernell whitaker tapes, mayweather is a better fighter

[TheGreatA]

Something people don't mention,


Never mention how close Whitaker vs. McGirt 1 was.

It was a close fight and McGirt was a very, very good fighter, the linear welterweight champion at the time, and certainly no Baldomir at that. I thought Whitaker pretty much shut him out in the rematch, not on the scorecards but effectively in the fight.

[oaklandstephen]

Why does everyone say that ****** ****? Whitaker was beating Hurtado on the scorecards. Hurtado was awkward and hard to deal with. Only reason people even talk about the fight is because Pernell was down twice.

be honest whitaker was gettin his ass whooped b4 the knock out, the reason he was ahead on the scorecard was becasue if he won that fight hed be fighting de la hoya next and that was a future mega fight.the reason he won is because he is a true champion and true champions always find a way to win.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It was a close fight and McGirt was a very, very good fighter, the linear welterweight champion at the time, and certainly no Baldomir at that. I thought Whitaker pretty much shut him out in the rematch, not on the scorecards but effectively in the fight.

McGirt had really good hand speed, power, chin, well rounded, I feel he is underrated man.

[!! Shawn]

McGirt had really good hand speed, power, chin, well rounded, I feel he is underrated man.

Nothing under rated about him. He was p4p #4 or something when they fought. He was a great fighter, ****ty trainer.

[daggum]

whitaker lost to rivera in the first fight
rivera lost to vargas
vargas lost to mayorga
mayorga lost to spinks
spinks lost to judah
judah lost to baldomir
floyd beat baldomir

PROOF!

[BennyST]

No I did not know that. I watched it, don't remember them mentioning that. I do remember Whitaker saying that Tito's punches felt weird, that he never faced anyone with a punch like that. Correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember too well, wasn't it Whitaker who said he felt like he was being hit with a rock?

That was Joppy. The fight just before the Hopkins bout. He said he had never felt anything like that and that it didn't feel right. Not just huge, incredible power but different. Interesting. He also didn't say it after Tito got caught but before it.

[BennyST]

At times I wonder whether the only fight people have seen of Whitaker is the Hurtado fight. He could put on very effective pressure much like he does here against Harold Brazier, a very skilled opponent whom he completely shuts down:



Whitaker was 5'5-5'6 compared to Hurtado who was 6 feet tall and a very well-schooled boxer, is it a surprise he tried to pressure him?

Harold Brazier was one of the best fighters to never win a title ever. That guy was a defensive monster himself who had amazing counter punching etc etc. Fast.

He would have been past it somewhat by the Whitaker fight I think...Or maybe not. I can't really remember when his prime was now.

Anyway, if someone shuts out Brazier, it's an incredible feat. He was really damn good and hardly anyone knows about him.

Fought goddamned everyone and ended up with a crazy record of 130-15 or something. He was great and a beautiful fighter to watch go to work.

[Sin City]

they could have a trilogy and mayweather would come out 3-0. im really big on pernell but his defensive skills pale in comparison to mayweathers. the thing about pernell is that he awed fans because of his flashy defense where as mayweathers is not flashy, but much more effective. pernell got hit way more than mayweather ever did.

the difference between pernell and floyd is that pernell fought the toughest fighters out there.. mayweather doesn't so looks more impressive but because his opposition isn't as good. whittaker is a better all around fighter then mayweather too.. whittaker was great on the offense where as mayweather is nothing but defense.

[BennyST]

Why does everyone say that ****** ****? Whitaker was beating Hurtado on the scorecards. Hurtado was awkward and hard to deal with. Only reason people even talk about the fight is because Pernell was down twice.

You mean literally or that he was beating him but still behind on the cards? He was quite far behind on all but one of the cards. He still would have lost a MD even if he had won the next two rounds I think.

[Doctor_Tenma]

That was Joppy. The fight just before the Hopkins bout. He said he had never felt anything like that and that it didn't feel right. Not just huge, incredible power but different. Interesting. He also didn't say it after Tito got caught but before it.

Very true, so Joppy said he felt like he was being hit with a rock? I clearly remember someone saying that.