Who do you give credit, Floyd or Pac beating Marquez?

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I can't agree that a guy who has faced world class fighters in the square circle in 5 weight divisions is *****-made and I don't agree that anything above 156 is a valid estimate of his weight on that night.

isn't picking on a guy 2 divisions below you a *****-made act?

155-160 is as valid as 152-154 because we don't know because floyd didn't get on the scales. my guess is as good as yours. agree?

[jrosales13]

Yeah I edited that I thought you started the thread but then I looked back and you didn't so I changed you to he but all I'm saying is IMO Manny did not beat marquez and therefore does not get as much credit, albeit the small amount of credit I do give floyd for that fight, as a guy who dominated marquez. I do give floyd some credit though seeing as though he fought a good fighter after two years of not fighting. I don't really see what mosely has to do with this topic in particular.

Let me ask you would you give some credit to Joe Calzaghe if he comes out of retirement and beats Shane Mosley at 168?

Would you also give Lennox Lewis some credit if he comes out of retirement and beats Chad Dawson at HW?

[jrosales13]

I voted for Floyd beating Marquez, you know why? Because he was the only one that actually beat Marquez. Why would I give Pacquiao more credit if all he did was get a draw and a controversial SD where he was outlanded and many thought he lost?

Mayweather dominated Marquez.

Would you give Calzaghe credit for beating Shane Mosley at 168?

Would you give Lennox Lewis credit for beating Chad Dawson at HW?

[Syf]

lol @ poll results.

It could be argued Marquez beat Pac both times. Mayweather, weight issues aside, it wasn't even close.

Mayweather by a mile.

[jrosales13]

lol @ poll results.

It could be argued Marquez beat Pac both times. Mayweather, weight issues aside, it wasn't even close.

Mayweather by a mile.

Glen Johnson fights Lennox Lewis at HW and Lewis dominates him. Who should get more credit for beating Johnson. Lewis or Chad Dawson? It could be argued that Johnson beat Dawson.

Shane Mosley fights Calzaghe at 168. And Calzaghe wins every single round. Who should get more Cotto or Calzaghe? You could argue Mosley beay Cotto.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

If pac fought marquez that night mr.counterfeit cash fought him it would have been more exciting with a devastating KO by pacquiao.

btw,

pac vs marquez 1; marquez 30 years old at 126 lbs. in his absolute physical prime vs pacquiao a 24 year old one handed fighter. & he still got dropped 3x & a draw.

pac vs marquez 2; at 130 lbs, marquez 34 years old, two fights away from ko'ing casamayor & baby bull.

Marquez vs Mr.Counterfeit Cash; marquez, 36 years old, drinking piss, a career featherweight with 55 plus fights, 2 fights at 135 takes on a 32 year old undefeated lineal welterweight champion former 154 lb titlist, at welterweight......

you be the judge......


on second thought look at the poll results.

[gqjohnb]

Let me ask you would you give some credit to Joe Calzaghe if he comes out of retirement and beats Shane Mosley at 168?

Would you also give Lennox Lewis some credit if he comes out of retirement and beats Chad Dawson at HW?

I hear wat your saying even though those situation's comparisons are a bit shaky IMO I may tell you why later I'm in a rush... but I don't give him a lot of credit just a little because he could've faced a lot weaker competition than marquez after the long layoff. I don't give any credit to pacquioa for beating marquez because I don't think he did beat marquez.

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Glen Johnson fights Lennox Lewis at HW and Lewis dominates him. Who should get more credit for beating Johnson. Lewis or Chad Dawson? It could be argued that Johnson beat Dawson.

Shane Mosley fights Calzaghe at 168. And Calzaghe wins every single round. Who should get more Cotto or Calzaghe? You could argue Mosley beay Cotto.

please answer these questions floyd stans.

[Pullcounter]

I hear wat your saying even though those situation's comparisons are a bit shaky IMO I may tell you why later I'm in a rush... but I don't give him a lot of credit just a little because he could've faced a lot weaker competition than marquez after the long layoff. I don't give any credit to pacquioa for beating marquez because I don't think he did beat marquez.

do you really think the jmm that floyd fought was any where near the same jmm that pac fought in both fights? really?

[Syf]

Glen Johnson fights Lennox Lewis at HW and Lewis dominates him. Who should get more credit for beating Johnson. Lewis or Chad Dawson? It could be argued that Johnson beat Dawson.

Shane Mosley fights Calzaghe at 168. And Calzaghe wins every single round. Who should get more Cotto or Calzaghe? You could argue Mosley beay Cotto.

The one that beat their opponent better.

I don't play all these weight "what if" trivia games. Why punish the victor when it was the challenger that decided to move up in weight?