How many great fighters does Floyd have to beat?

[Clyde Barrow]

I am not afraid of Floyd losing. I want to see some good fights.

Here's an excuse list for possible Floyd opponents, in tradition of the simply wonderful thought provoking posts I see in NSB:

Cotto: Cotto was shot

Pac: Pac was too small and his style is tailor made for Floyd

Marg: weakling without his plaster

Mosley: Floyd waited too long..SSM got too old

Berto/Alvarez: They were too green

Collazo: He was a glorified gatekeeper

Pwill: He was overrated cuz of his physicality

Especially, if whichever fighter is dominated, and its made to look easy by Floyd

Of course. Pure genius. PBF's "haters" - a bunch of ****** people whose biased opinions shouldn't matter - would say this, so that means that PBF shouldn't bother to fight any of them. You know, because his "haters" on a boxing website would minimize it.

I'm curious as to just how many people post here that are fans of PBF but not all out ball garglers.

[djtmal]

fight some stiff comp floyd avoid..

[Syf]

That's what about 100 or so people on a Message forum would say. They don't speak for the other Millions who'll dish out money to watch Floyd fight the best guys.

They will have already dished out the money. Because the fight would be over. My point is that any fighter he beats loses credibility, as opposed to giving HIM credibility. Its the easier process in a lot of people's minds.

To the casual fan, you might have a point. But I'm not talking to casual fans here. I'm talking to freakin' NSB.

[Ox Barrel]

I think there are a couple of reasons why people get down on Floyd Mayweather so much.

First, the guy has a style that isn't the biggest crowd pleaser. That real slick defensive style with lightning jabs is not the most exciting thing to watch. His most recent fights show a guy with a lot of smarts jabbing away until the right moment to go for a KO on a tired fighter or just winning round after round like with Marquez. Dude just isn't a fireworks kind of fighter. (at least recently)

Second, the guy is undefeated and often named as one of or THE pound for pound best. You are always gonna be criticized more when you are singled out at the top. All the complaints are what you hear with any big name boxer: dodging fights, avoiding bad style match ups, excuses and such. Add on that he is undefeated and you have a perfect target against people who don't like the career choices or wins over certain people. That 0 is basically a bullseye.

Third, there seems to be a lot of noise and speculation about him willing to fight Mosley or the Pac-Cotto winner. That will get people all pissy about Mayweather even if it is all rumor. Other than Mosley everyone is being kind of tight about any fights in the spring. All comes back to people assuming Mayweather is afraid to loose the 0 on his record.

In any case I think that Mayweather is already one of the biggest names in boxing and if he continues to fight, then he is gonna have to fight all those big names. I can't see him avoiding the kind of money that'll be made from a Pac-Mayweather fight, which to me would be the best and most profitable option open to the guy.

[Syf]

Of course. Pure genius. PBF's "haters" - a bunch of ****** people whose biased opinions shouldn't matter - would say this, so that means that PBF shouldn't bother to fight any of them. You know, because his "haters" on a boxing website would minimize it.

I'm curious as to just how many people post here that are fans of PBF but not all out ball garglers.

I never said he shouldn't fight top comp. Link to where I EVER said that.

I'm just saying excuses will pop up regardless.. and threads like this will prevail no matter who he beats.

[Pullcounter]

This guy stopped the late great champions Gatti & Diego.

Gatti is great? really?

He beat 2 undefeated champions in Diego & Hatton in their prime.

he beat hatton at a weight that hatton clearly has no business being in.

He has beaten future hall of Famers like Oscar & Marquez.

oscar was a payday.

jmm was a tune up. he was too small.

He holds victories against former champions like Hernandez, Castillo twice, Judah, Baldomir & Mitchell.

all good wins, but nothing spectacular.

If Floyd beak King Kong what BS would the haters come up with then?

how about just beat an elite WW? just stop ducking mosley and everything will be good.

[jrosales13]

As I said before, the moment he defeats these people they lose value to you cats.

But, in all honesty what kind of value did Sosa, Ndou, Bruseles and Mitchell had going into the fights? What kind of value did Corley and Judah had when they were coming from a loss going into the fights? What kind of value did Marquez had at WW? In all honesty as a boxing fan no nuthuggin. What kind of value did they have going in?[/QUOTE]

[Ravishing]

They will have already dished out the money. Because the fight would be over. My point is that any fighter he beats loses credibility, as opposed to giving HIM credibility. Its the easier process in a lot of people's minds.

To the casual fan, you might have a point. But I'm not talking to casual fans here. I'm talking to freakin' NSB.

But again, NSB is cluttered with guys who think they're favorite fighters (whomever they may be) would beat every other great fighter in any other time, gotta take what a lot of people say with a grain of salt. The casual fans are really the ones who are the asses in the seats and provide the majority of the #s on PPV. I talk to a lot of casual fans who complain that Floyd should fight Shane Mosley after what they saw at the end of the Marquez vs Floyd PPV. But only on NSB will Floyd fans make it an issue for him not to fight Mosley because he either used steroids years ago or he has 5 losses (pretty much mimicking what Floyd tells the media). Goes both ways...

[Clyde Barrow]

I never said he shouldn't fight top comp. Link to where I EVER said that.

I'm just saying excuses will pop up regardless.. and threads like this will prevail no matter who he beats.

Mate, if PBF faced and beat any of those guys, any true fan of boxing with any common sense would disregard any excuses that came up, because that's all it would be lad, excuses. The opinions of real fans that actually matter would be favorable, because the man got in the ring and handled his business. PBF himself will prevail in this matter by beating the top guys in his division. Threads like this will never prevail, because they are rubbish, created by pathetic teenagers who are mancrushing.

[Walt Liquor]

I am not afraid of Floyd losing. I want to see some good fights.

Here's an excuse list for possible Floyd opponents, in tradition of the simply wonderful thought provoking posts I see in NSB:

Cotto: Cotto was shot

Pac: Pac was too small and his style is tailor made for Floyd

Marg: weakling without his plaster

Mosley: Floyd waited too long..SSM got too old
Berto/Alvarez: They were too green

Collazo: He was a glorified gatekeeper

Pwill: He was overrated cuz of his physicality

Especially, if whichever fighter is dominated, and its made to look easy by Floyd

again with the horrible posts. Anybody knows that we are looking for Floyd to challenge himself. That includes fighting prime fighter at their weight. You use all kinds of big words and try so hard to be eloquent, yet anyone can see right through to your ballhuggery. Predicting excuses is pathetic, for years people have been dying for Floyd to fight certain guys, he has always taken the easy way out. Stop looking up words in your thesaurus and learn who is in what weight class, who is in their prime, who fights who, and who doesn't fght who and you might understand.