How many great fighters does Floyd have to beat?

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  • razor.thin
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    #51
    let me know when he beats atleast one.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #52
      Originally posted by Haterfree
      This guy stopped the late great champions Gatti & Diego. He beat 2 undefeated champions in Diego & Hatton in their prime. He has beaten future hall of Famers like Oscar & Marquez. He holds victories against former champions like Hernandez, Castillo twice, Judah, Baldomir & Mitchell.

      If Floyd beak King Kong what BS would the haters come up with then?


      PS I think they would say it was only because Floyd was a human.
      nhe never beat a great fighter in his prime at their weight dummy.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Syf
        Yep..this what i mean.

        Anyone Mayweather defeats automatically becomes less. Doesn't matter who it is, particularly. Because people would rather disrespect and downplay the people he beats, rather than give floyd props for beating them.

        Has to do with them not liking him as a person or something. But I would suggest keeping your feelings out of it and looking at things objectively within the proper contexts.
        You are a jackass.

        Let's think about Floyd's comtemporaries.

        Does Manny get **** for beating Marquez- it was close, but no because they are the same size.

        do you hear oscar trying to get credit for his gatti destruction, no?

        does anyone talk shi t about cotto's win over shane? no, cuz that was shane's weight and cotto was man enough to fight him and pretty much everyone else at his weight.

        but with floyd its always an excuse why he won't fight his greatest challenge and its old. He is a certified ***** nowadays, BUT he has the opportunity to put that all behind him by cleaning out the ww division now- starting with SSM who embarassd his sorry ass at his last tuneup fight.

        Think about what you are saying, his wins over HOF'ers are a joke- JMM and Oscar.

        the majority of people with problems with floyd have problems with him since 2002. he gets his props for the gennero, corrales, and castillo wins.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Syf
          The only fight I don't give him all that much credit for in recent years is Baldomir. It was an uninspired choice.. Though Baldy did beat Judah.



          Since people fixate so much on weight, I think the fact that Mayweather moved up in weight to fight a naturally bigger man in Oscar speaks for itself. That fight did challenge Floyd a bit. It wasn't a blowout slugfest, no..it was a tactical match in which Mayweather slowly adapted to DLH's size and physical imposition.. and started to slip counters in amongst DLH's flurries. The DLH that PBF fought was far more dangerous the the DLH Pac fought, if we are keeping track.



          As I said before.. This is all said in hindsight. Its infinitely easy to criticize in hindsight. At the Mayweather/Gatti fight, they had Hatton on the high hog as a possible Mayweather opponent..HBO was saying his name above Cotto's or anyone else's. Hatton was an undefeated fighter when he met PBF, regardless of whether others had given him fits or not.



          How magnanimous of you. But Floyd did not lose that first fight. The announcers were very anti floyd in the first Castillo fight. They were not fully appreciative of his defensive style. Giving credit, as well was compubox, for shots Castillo threw that floyd blocked on his gloves, forearms, and picked the rest off with core and foot mobility paired with the shoulderoll.. Castillo landed a few flush shots... mostly body shots. But nothing to represent the announcers' accolades of that night, or compubox's numbers.
          another horrible post. hatton already fought at ww and looked terrible.

          oscar was a shell of himself and floyd fought him strictly for the money. oscar was about 5-6 yrs past his prime. remember what sturm and bhop did to him? remember what forbes did to him after the floyd fight?

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          • larry x
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            #55
            Originally posted by BoxingChaos
            I can't believe you added Gatti as your number one starting point for your argument.
            Gatti was shot long before Floyd got a hold of him. I believe the Drag Queen ODLH put the hurting on Gatti 5 years before Floyd laid his mittens on him. Gatti was so shot, Alfalfa Gomez was able to beat him.

            Corrales was on his way to prison just before his bout with Floyd. Mentally unprepared, totally distracted, Corrales was not that good anyway. Yes he was a warrior but that is all.

            Hatton's best win ever was against an old KT who was ready to retire due to injuries and illness.

            Hatton was over rated. Was that really a prime Hatton Floyd beat? I think not. Collazo beat the noise out of Hatton too in the same weight class and Hatton was chased back down to 140.

            ODLH was so over the hill, little Stevie Forbes was giving him a run for his money.

            Marquez forced to move up too fast and then Floyd does not even honor the catch weight? WOW what a brave ***** ass move was that? Marquez moves up nearly three weight classes in the blink of an eye and Floyd was still scared to knock the fat little midget out.

            I will give him the Genaro win.

            He lost to Castillo the first time.

            He beat Castillo in the rematch.

            Judah was destroyed by KT and owned by an old ass dinosaur plodder before Floyd ever got to him.

            Baldomir was so old, he farted dust and I guess that is ok if you sell feather dusters.

            Mitchell?


            You forgot to mention Bruseless.

            lol
            this is one of the most hate filled baised post ive ever read..this post here shows a man who will never give floyd credit for ****...so if he fights and beats mosley and cotto posters like this will say..say was old,past prime and cotto was ruined by margo and mentally shot....what you just posted can be done to any fighters resume if you're looking at it with a blind eye and a hate filled heart

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              #56
              Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
              Don't you already take a chance fighting big men when you come up from Super Featherweight and fight all the way up to Junior Middleweight?
              Considering that when you move up to junior middle weight, you end up being larger, and taller then the junior middle weights. Floyd was a bigger Welter Weight than Hatton was.



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                #57
                ATG post man **** tha h8terzzz on thu haterzzz

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                • larry x
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                  #58
                  by the logic on here..cotto hasnt beat anyone
                  mosley-old past prime
                  judah-ruined by kt and floyd was shot before cotto fought him
                  clottey-who has he ever beat??

                  pacman-beat no 1
                  barrerra-he already had loses and was old
                  morales-shot-weight drained
                  oscar-please old,shot weight drained..
                  hatton-floyd ruined him and he was past prime


                  see you can **** on anyones resume going by ***********' logic

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by larry x
                    this is one of the most hate filled baised post ive ever read..this post here shows a man who will never give floyd credit for ****...so if he fights and beats mosley and cotto posters like this will say..say was old,past prime and cotto was ruined by margo and mentally shot....what you just posted can be done to any fighters resume if you're looking at it with a blind eye and a hate filled heart

                    The is a very big

                    Key and point.

                    Hell would just as well freeze over.



                    Cherry picking is cute when children do it but when a grown man who claims to be the greatest of all time goes around cherry picking
                    Last edited by BoxingChaos; 10-22-2009, 09:18 AM.

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                    • Stickman
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                      #60
                      If he were to convincingly beat Mosley and Cotto, I'd write him down in my book as an ATG. Unfortunately, you have to actually sign a fight with someone to have a chance to beat them, and Mayweather definitely won't sign with Mosley, and probably won't sign with Cotto either, even if he beats Pacman. He'll probably still make the Pacman fight, and then retire again....for good this time, I hope.

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