Is Zuffa just adding to the "belt" problem?

[Coverdale]

In the short term at least but who cares? The situation is already farcical so if a byproduct of the attempted Zuffa takeover is the death of a few sanctioning bodies then that's a good outcome by itself. There are currently four guys calling themselves heavyweight champion even though the real champion (who's about to fight a kickboxer) holds three belts. Doesn't get more farcical than that and none of it is Zuffa's fault.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The belts or titles have never been the problem 'I think having more titles, can sometimes be a positive. Because they can create narratives and increase the prestige of boxing events. Especially when you have two fighters that are not mega stars'.

But then there is a level in boxing, where the fighters alleviate themselves beyond the belts 'fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao and Oleksandr Uysk are fighters who in my opinion have reached this level in recent times'.

Note: The issue arises when? Fight organisations don't follow strict rules and regulations. Or if they want to somehow marginalize the sport, in the case of Zuffa Boxing.

The fact of the matter is, most people with society 'have no idea the significance of World titles. The most historical significant, and most prestigious title in boxing is still the Olympic title by miles'.

Boxing is about theatre, and narrative driven fights 'if those types of fights are being made, then this is what makes the sport great. The titles add to the prestige and significance of fights'.

To conclude: So overall Zuffa Boxing will not be a problem to boxing, if they just aim to make great fights 'it will only become a issue, if they have this distorted ambition to take over the sport. And turn a truly open class global sport into a franchise sport, which consist of a few hundred active fighters i.e. that is essentially what the UFC is as a product'.

The UFC has zero World Champions, Global World Champions don't exist in franchise sports 'you only have champions of the franchise for which they are competing in, against a talent pool which is nowhere near the vastness of Global boxing' etc.

[El_Mero]

DAZN spent a billion dollars planning up buy up all the talent and own the sport.

Didn't happen.

Instead, they handed out welfare checks to nobodies like Tevin Farmer and Demetrius Andrade.

Doesnt take away the facts of what I stated. Their futbol programming alone, is dope af, and brings in more money than boxing will ever

[paulf]

Doesnt take away the facts of what I stated. Their futbol programming alone, is dope af, and brings in more money than boxing will ever

Why are you talking about football? This is a boxing forum and my point was about boxing.

DAZN tried to take over boxing and failed miserably.

[ELPacman]

The belts or titles have never been the problem 'I think having more titles, can sometimes be a positive. Because they can create narratives and increase the prestige of boxing events. Especially when you have two fighters that are not mega stars'.

But then there is a level in boxing, where the fighters alleviate themselves beyond the belts 'fighters such as Floyd Mayweather Junior, Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao and Oleksandr Uysk are fighters who in my opinion have reached this level in recent times'.

Note: The issue arises when? Fight organisations don't follow strict rules and regulations. Or if they want to somehow marginalize the sport, in the case of Zuffa Boxing.

The fact of the matter is, most people with society 'have no idea the significance of World titles. The most historical significant, and most prestigious title in boxing is still the Olympic title by miles'.

Boxing is about theatre, and narrative driven fights 'if those types of fights are being made, then this is what makes the sport great. The titles add to the prestige and significance of fights'.

To conclude: So overall Zuffa Boxing will not be a problem to boxing, if they just aim to make great fights 'it will only become a issue, if they have this distorted ambition to take over the sport. And turn a truly open class global sport into a franchise sport, which consist of a few hundred active fighters i.e. that is essentially what the UFC is as a product'.

The UFC has zero World Champions, Global World Champions don't exist in franchise sports 'you only have champions of the franchise for which they are competing in, against a talent pool which is nowhere near the vastness of Global boxing' etc.

This is part of my main problem with Zuffa. I see it as a want to try and come in and takeover attempt with the financial backing of the Saudi's. To answer the common complaint boxing fans have had forever with all the belts. Though now that the reality might be knocking, it might make you take a step back and think about what that means. If it means consolidating a global sport into 1 "franchise" or company, then I can see a problem because as long as the world belts exist, fighters will want to fight for them and not get locked down by 1 company who has 1 belt and if you're not part of that company, you're not technically the champion of the world.

[PRINCEKOOL]

This is part of my main problem with Zuffa. I see it as a want to try and come in and takeover attempt with the financial backing of the Saudi's. To answer the common complaint boxing fans have had forever with all the belts. Though now that the reality might be knocking, it might make you take a step back and think about what that means. If it means consolidating a global sport into 1 "franchise" or company, then I can see a problem because as long as the world belts exist, fighters will want to fight for them and not get locked down by 1 company who has 1 belt and if you're not part of that company, you're not technically the champion of the world.

It is why in Soccer when they tried to create the European Super League Franchise, the actual global sport of soccer 'overrode the idea'.

It had nothing to do with funding, quite simply? Open class global sports, understand that becoming a franchise will actually marginalize their sport 'and reduce the participation levels'.

Note: The UFC has less than 1000 active fighters, which consist of all weight divisions 'The UFC does not represent the entire world of mixed martial arts. It has no World Champions, only franchise World Champions. Which is great for business, but not really for the sport'.

Although American has dominated boxing, 'the sport of pugilism is still a European cultured sport. And in my opinion the Franchise sports Model is a part of American culture and somewhat of a sporting obsession'.

NBA, NFL, none of those sports are open class global sports 'they are all franchise sports. They don't have World Champions'.

This is why I have stated? To take over boxing, it will require more than just funding 'Zuffa boxing may create a great product, a separate franchise of boxing. But those 600 to 1000 active fighters are not going to be the representation of the entire global sport of boxing. Those are the facts'.

And it is not even solely about World titles, the Lonsdale British title is the most prestige professional title in boxing why? Because of the historical significance.

The most prestigious American boxing title in my opinion is the Golden Gloves boxing Championships.

To conclude: An European based and culture sport like boxing, will be very difficult to completely take over by this franchise sports model.

Boxing is exciting, because at any given time a prospect can appear 'rise up from the masses, completely off the radar. Because the talent pool of boxing, just like in all other open class global sports is the entire World' etc.